EvangelicalChristian
What is your confession?
Just as I can and do respect yours. I don't agree with it of course but that's ok I don't assert that one must believe as I do.
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Guess we'll just have to disagree over our individual biblical interpretations. I just don't see how consentual, monogomous homosexual relationships are condemned under Christ's new covenant. If you do, well, thats your prerogative, but it doesn't sound like your being particularly condemnatory of others, so I can respect your opinion, even without agreeing with it
So men with men must be heterosexual. Sorry I can’t communicate with you as our definitions of words are opposite.No, none of the cited verses refer to homosexual UNION...
That’s nonsense, the Bible countenances man and woman in marriage so that’s marriage, marriage is always what you would call heterosexual. The Bible condemns same-sex unions which is what you call homosexual unions.But the Bible never, ever, either pro or anti, specifically mentions homosexual unions, that being, monogomous unions analogous to heterosexual marriage
I second EnemyParty11's comment as to your posts being polite and respectful.
I would say that you're a rare exception in regard to your not holding negative views on homosexuality prior to your reading of the Bible. Actually, I'm a tad cynical of many professed Christians in regard to all manner of their 'beliefs' ...especially in regard to this issue. If the truth be known the majority of Christians would have no idea where to locate the scriptures that supposedly speak of homosexuality. Most have only heard over and over and over again that the Bible condemns homosexuality until it's become a part of their thinking. This impression has been implanted into their minds over a lengthy period of time and it's doubtful that many would have arrived at that point by virtue of their own research.
Men wanting sex with men is wanting a homosexual union not a herosexual one
Yes, in what ways can one be pysically attracted to another person?Do you make the assumption that if someone is physically/romantically attracted to another person, they automatically want to have sex with that person? If so, on what do you base that assumption
Yes, in what ways can one be pysically attracted to another person?
But my comment was.
Men wanting sex with men is wanting a homosexual union not a heterosexual one.
Do you think men wanting sex with men is a homosexual or a heterosexual union?
Just do the reading, who knows, something might be learned.
I'm not going to accept that my lifestyle is sinful just because of some verses scribbled on some ancient goatskins. I want to know WHY your God considers it sinful.
The point, I think, is that without a reasonable explanation for why a certain thing is condemned, one can be quite sure indeed that the condemnation is a misinterpretation, or a mistranlation, or a result of some other error. Rather than a correct, albeit baffling, legalistic condemnation.We don't need to know why. That kind of request is typical of the spoiled child asking his mommy, "Why?" all the time! When we are aware of the extreme love of God for us personally and His sacrifice for our freedom from sin's devastating addiction on us, our minds, our bodies and our very life, we don't have to ask Him why. We conform to his edicts with gladness and gratefulness that He would care enough to save us from our sin!
Yours, apparently. People have explained time and again why you keep putting your word above God's, why your prejudices and presupposed beliefs are antithetical to Christian theology and morality.If God's word isn't enough for you, then whose word is? Now THAT is the question!
We don't need to know why. That kind of request is typical of the spoiled child asking his mommy, "Why?" all the time!
I cannot be aware of his sacrifice if I don't understand the basis on which he decides what is sin and what isn't.When we are aware of the extreme love of God for us personally and His sacrifice for our freedom from sin's devastating addiction on us,
If God's word isn't enough for you, then whose word is? Now THAT is the question!
Anything worth learning regarding holy living is from God's word, not historical accounts of immorality.
The point, I think, is that without a reasonable explanation for why a certain thing is condemned, one can be quite sure indeed that the condemnation is a misinterpretation, or a mistranlation, or a result of some other error. Rather than a correct, albeit baffling, legalistic condemnation.
Yours, apparently. People have explained time and again why you keep putting your word above God's, why your prejudices and presupposed beliefs are antithetical to Christian theology and morality.
But that's blind faith for ya.
I would appreciate it if you would stop comparing me to a child. I have been reprimanded by the moderators for responding to your rudeness with rudeness, but if you carry on like this, I will tell you what I think of you, and it will not be pleasant.
You are not aware of the sacrifice that Jesus made for your sin? Jesus opted to be beaten beyond recognition and to be jeered at and spat upon, and finally nailed, naked to a cross, bleeding and broken for you so that you could have the forgiveness of God and a relationship with Him. He gives you a life.I cannot be aware of his sacrifice if I don't understand the basis on which he decides what is sin and what isn't.
Evidence is found at the cross. It is arrogance that needs testable propositions (and other big words like that). We live by faith. It is a real thing.The argument from authority -- a common logical fallacy. I accept evidence and testable propositions.
Then you will simply be putting your head in the sand and also failing to contribute to this conversation. Please note that it is YOU that is deciding this is immorality not the church.
Anything worth learning regarding holy living is from God's word, not historical accounts of immorality.
No, it is you who refuses to accept what God says in favour of what wicked man says.
What I refuse to accept is that it is YOU who gets to define what God says, FloatingAxe.
Well, God isn't guilty of making baffling, legalistic commands.
That's bull of course. I agree with God's word and that is exactly where I come from. My word is in harmony with His. Yours is not...in fact, yours is rife with prejudice, man-made beliefs and are all anti-God.
Indeed. Which makes me wonder why you continue to interpret God's word to yield baffling, legalistic commands.Well, God isn't guilty of making baffling, legalistic commands.
But that's just it: you don't. Like I said, you have been repeatedly shown why God's word doesn't say what you think it says. You interpretation (and, indeed, translation) is antithetical to what Jesus preached.That's bull of course. I agree with God's word and that is exactly where I come from.
Try not to change the subject. I make no claims to be a Christian; you, however, do.My word is in harmony with His. Yours is not...in fact, yours is rife with prejudice, man-made beliefs and are all anti-God.
It is always amusing to me to see how those who follow the secular world view take it so personal when they are opposed in their views!
No--I follow Jesus Christ alone, as do all born again Christians who want to serve Him alone. His Word is my authority. I am pleased and honoured to explain it to those here who desperately need the truth of it.
You are refusing the Word of God when you embrace homosexuality and homosexual marriage. It is an anti-God stance.
God's Word and His mind on any matter is not hard to know. He makes it easy enough for a child to know.
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