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I'm sorry, but aren't there other threads with this topic? Even in this particular forum? I think how far is too far as been discussed to death. Sorry that's just my opinion but I think this topic is overly discussed, everyone has a different opinion...Ask a pastor, a youth pastor, an adult friend who you can ask such questions to! Ask someone who is married who remembers dating if they will share what struggles (not in detail) they had with temptation and what they did to overcome those struggles and how far they believe is "too far". You are not going to get one solid answer here or probably anywhere.
 
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AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! If people want to know "how far is too far" PLEASE read this and stop posting new threads!!!
 
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Living4Him03 said:
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! If people want to know "how far is too far" PLEASE read this and stop posting new threads!!!

This thread was started by someone who had a personal problem and wanted personal replies. Does it matter whether there are a number of threads on this topic?

The important thing is that the initial posters feels that he/she is getting some sort of Christian advice, and isn't going to be judged for asking for help.
 
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Ok, my girlfriend and I took things a step farther last night. As you are aware, we were already having sex as of the second date. As I've discussed, it is my believe that sex is sufficiently important to a relationship that the parties should engage in it early to ensure that they are compatible.

We went to her friend's house and started drinking. We all had a little bit too much to drink, and my girlfriend and I started fooling around on the couch. Things continued to advance and, well, it happened. We had sex on the couch and the friend participated. I feel horrible about it now because I know that is not right, but I can't help the fact that I enjoyed it. I'm terribly conflicted now. I want to do what is right by god, but I'm just not sure that celibacy is for me. We need to explore our sexual needs and desires in order to know what we want out of a relationship.
 
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I personally belive that we need to go back to the way that our great-grandparents "courted" eachother. for example:

A: they didn't have all the types of mobility that we have today. all they had was either horse, or foot powered sooo....no back seats to get into.

B: a guy never went to a young ladies house alone unless he was thinking about marrying that young lady
1. you are probly saying right now then how do I meet girls.
a. youth
b. public get to gethers
c. maybe even school activities (all of which will keep you out of trouble)

C: never put yourself in an unconfordable situation (this is left up to the two people involed and thier ralationship w/ God)

D: be chivalous

E: last but not least do not "do" untill you say "I Do"
 
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A British newspaper (The Guardian), once did a survey among wedded couples and divorcees.

The results were that if you live together BEFORE you are married (i.e. with sexual intercourse) your marriage is twice as likely to fail than if you start to live with each other from the day of the wedding.

God's way always works best.
 
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I would think that an active discussion of topics that are relevant to users of this forum (especially newbies) would be appropriate and helpful - Obviously the poster was wanting an honest discussion of something that he was struggling with - you don't have to participate if you have already said your piece somewhere else!
 
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I'm glad that you are here to get advice and trying to do the right thing, but I must admit that I am pretty confused by some of your statements. You say that you want to do what is right by Christian standards, but then you put your own interpretation of what makes a good relationship above what is clearly stated in the bible. If you truly want to do what is right by Christian standards, then I believe you should put God first and then try to make your life closer to what He asks of you. If you always begin with Him instead of you then you are much less likely to make the wrong decision.

I believe that sexual compatibility has been exaggerated in our current society. I don't buy in to the idea that people who truly love each other can be sexually incompatible and miserable after marriage. There are a great many aspects of married life that you can never be fully prepared for until you undertake them. The way to explore these kinds of things is as a married couple. You must work together to find a compromise that brings happiness to both of you.

When you are only at the dating level, I think it is especially important to leave lust out of the situation. You must realize that physical attraction is not the basis for a sound realtionship. If you want this relationship to last for a lifetime, you are going to need a lot more than sex. The courting period before marriage is an important time for nurtuting a healthy relationship that can only be accomplished by communicating with each other and sharing experiences. By specifically not focusing on the physical, you can enhance and strengthen your mental and spiritual relationship and understanding of each other. Only after this type of realtionship has reached maturity are you ready for a lifelong commitment of marriage and then sex. When you have sex with a person, you become more intimate with that person than is intended outside of marriage. You become one flesh with them. A part of you will always be with them and a part of them always with you. This is not a commitment to take lightly or to experiment with prospects.

While we are here, I feel I must say my peace on drinking as well. While I don't feel that alcohol is inherently bad and that drinking a little has very little effect, I also believe that it is all too often abused. Drinking alcohol depresses the nervous system resulting in slower reaction, less sensory awareness, and reduced ability to make good decisions. There is also the psychological effect that people who believe they are "under the influence" tend to feel less responsible for their actions, thus reducing their decision-making ability even more. I think your unfortunate encounter is excellent proof that while your mind was inhibited, you did something that you knew was wrong and did not want to do (at least in your higher thinking). You were following, instead, your physical desires and temptations.

I hope that this has been helpful. I think if you truly love God then you will obey Him over your urges. If you truly love your gf, then I don't think sexual compatibility will be a problem. But it is important to communicate your feelings and desires with her. You should discuss what you are feeling and thinking so that you better understand each other. Between the two of you and God you should work to understand what is right and wrong and set specific limits for yourselves. While in a perfect world there would be no need for a line, I believe that in the real world, having a line to not cross can be helpful. Knowing exactly what you will not do will make it easier. If you do cross the line, then just pick yourself up and try again. For we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God. To help you not cross that line, you should also avoid situations where temptation occurs. In other words, try not to be in places and situations where it is easy to do things you believe are wrong, especially if you are tempted to do them. In your case, I think this would specifically mean avoiding alcohol. But that's just my opinion.

Good luck in your search for truth and understanding.
 
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I recently began dating a really great guy and this was an issue that we ran into. Each of us had only had one dating relationship in the past - his was more recent and got fairly serious, while mine was 3 0r 4 years ago, and pretty much a joke. Before we became "official" we had "the talk" to discuss many things about where we were headed. One of those issues was the physical aspect of our relationship. My love language is physical touch, so I picture holding hands, huging, occassional kissing etc. It also must be taken into consideration that the relationship that I had before had ABSOLUTLY no physical touch, which put a huge strain on the relationship. He came from an oppisite situation where things were more physical than he would have liked. Therefore, he wanted to take things so much slower than me. Both of us feel like sex is deffinatly for marriage and there should for no reason be any clothing removal or touching of certin body parts until after marriage. We sat down and figured out our relationship and where it is going and looked at reasonable windows of time for where things could be headed. The most important thing that we are keeping in mind is that the physical aspect matches up with the rest of our relationship, so that our whole relatioship will grow together. I don't know if that helps you at all, but if you have any more questions, feel free to ask me.
 
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Well im 17 and i have a girlfriend (its one of my first relationships) and i was just wondering from a christian point of view (cause i am a christian and want to do the right thing) how far is too far to go?

I don't know if I'm allowed to post in here.. I I'm like the only teen, but I couldn't help myself. As far as 1 Timothy 5:1-2 says (as seen below in my sig.) I believe that God calls us to treat eachother as brothers and sisters... as we are in Christ. Simple I tell ya God bless!
 
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If you want to do things right by God, then stop having sex until you get married. Ask God to forgive you for what you've done wrong, and try to turn around and do what's right instead. There's a difference between lifelong celibacy and abstinence until you get married. Abstaining from sex until marriage is not the same thing as swearing off sex forever. You do get to have sex one day, you just have to wait. Sure, it won't be easy for you, but you can do it. And it will be worth it. I can see why you would be conflicted - might I suggest looking at what the Bible has to say about sex and possibly discussing the matter with your priest?
 
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If you ever have to come to CF and ask if you've gone too far, you probably have. Just a little rule of thumb. Don't base things on right and wrong, be wise, it will get you farther and you'll never have to worry about making the right decision, because the wiser one is always the best.
 
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