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Houston-area school board votes to remove 13 chapters from state-approved science textbooks, citing controversial topics

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Which is all to the good…yes, many theists are “good stewards” of the planet.

As a non-theist, I do not see Anyone rushing in to “save” Their plan or Creation and that whatever happens with the planet with regards to AGW is on human beings alone…and if we make Earth uninhabitable for human beings, that’ll be the endgame for evolution’s experiment in giving us brains that are bigger than they absolutely needed to be.
 
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I don't believe that any change in sea level is a threat because we will notice the trend and apply mitigators to loss of life and property.
If it wasn't a threat then you wouldn't have to do anything about it.
 
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If you were to reread my initial comment to you, I said, "Basically - it does not require the biggest polluters to really do anything."

I did not claim that there were countries that had "done literally nothing" - but that this Accord did not require anyone to "really do anything" - which leads me to believe that there is no imminent threat.

In my next comment - the one about the "house on fire" - I said again that an agreement about the house being on fire means nothing if "they don't decide to really do anything about it".

The lack of action - in regard to requiring that anyone actually do anything - leads me to believe that there is no fire or that the fire is not an imminent threat.

You tried to claim that my argument was that "there can't be a problem" because "countries are not doing enough" - which is a strawman.

I did not say that any country had "done literally nothing" - just that the lack of any requirement by this Accord not only makes it ineffectual but it does not add any credence to the idea that climate change is an imminent threat.

Your original argument was that climate change had to be an imminent threat because all these countries decided that it was.

I was only pointing out that them all agreeing that it is an imminent threat means little if they do not require anyone to really do anything.

That has always been my position.

Anyways, you have kept trying to go back to your strawman - claiming that I am avoiding your irrelevant question because it was about a claim that I never made - while I have been trying to correct you.

Now we are all caught up.
 
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For those with beach-front properties on the leading edge of where climate change is making them unlivable, they're sometimes getting handouts from We The People to save them from total losses.
That doesn't change the fact that the loudest advocates of climate change are still those flying those private jets, sailing those massive yachts, driving the giant cars and buying up the beach-front property.
 
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If doing nothing about a situation would result in loss of life or property, then that situation is, by definition, a threat.
A car driving down the street is not a threat unless I run into the street.
 
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Do you think that there would be no serious repercussions to mankind detonating all their nuclear warheads simultaneously?
We know how this world will end from the scriptures. God knows the beginning from the end. We cannot frustrate His plans because they have already been revealed.
 
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I don't see it as a threat. Things change.
 
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What is the alternative?
 
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What do you propose be done?
 
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A car driving down the street is not a threat unless I run into the street.
If you're talking about taking measures to protect life and property, you're already in the street in this analogy.
 
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If it wasn't a threat then you wouldn't have to do anything about it.
I don't consider cars in the street a threat because I don't stand in the street.
 
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Which is all to the good…yes, many theists are “good stewards” of the planet.

Perhaps because it is not as big of a threat as you perceive it to be.
 
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If you're talking about taking measures to protect life and property, you're already in the street in this analogy.
My not running into the street is the measure I took to protect myself.
 
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Your original argument was that climate change had to be an imminent threat because all these countries decided that it was.
I was pointing out that there has been world wide consensus in signing the Paris Accord. And that fact that every country is doing something about the problem shows that everyone agrees that there is a threat. Complaining that the Accord didn't force anyone to take specific measures is having something of an each way bet because I'm certain you'd have complained if they did.

Do you know what the main problem is? People who insist that there is no problem.
 
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And here I thought it was supposed to be the carbon.
 
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I don't consider cars in the street a threat because I don't stand in the street.
Is that line of thinking going to be used as an argument? 'It's not affecting me, therefore it's not a threat'.

Seriously?
And here I thought it was supposed to be the carbon.
From your posts so far it I don't think that you've put enough thought into it to know.
 
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Is that line of thinking going to be used as an argument? 'It's not affecting me, therefore it's not a threat'.

Seriously?
More if it is detectable, measurable and somewhat predictable - you can prepare for anything - making it not a threat.
From your posts so far it I don't think that you've put enough thought into it to know.
Your earlier response is proof positive for me that this entire climate change conversation is a tool of Satan to divide us.

So many people who are willing to destroy our economy and kill millions of people to maybe lower the global temperature a tenth of a degree in a hundred years.
 
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