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If my mom said "Don't steal", is that law itself putting me into bondage? I know she loves me even when I did steal. But it doesn't make stealing less wrong. If I chose to disobey and went ahead and stole, then I did the wrong. It wasn't the command that was wrong.

Are we not the children of God?
 
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Galatians 5:1 calls the law a yoke of bondage.

Acts 15:10 uses the word yoke in reference to bondage of the law.

I Tim 6:1 refers to yoke of masters which would be slave owners. Slavery is bondage last time I heard. Has it changed?
 
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Now that is new to me. What sin does the law take away?
 
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Who does Deut 28 apply to? The Holy Spirit toldme a long time ago that wasn't my covenant.

We aren't graft into Israel or God's people. We're graft into the Root which is Jesus. Jesus isn't Israel. Even the Jews must be graft into Jesus The Root. Read it (Romans 11) very closely.
 
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I wonder if this thread will hit 1,000 soon? I don't think I'll be here when it does, onto more edifying and diverse threads!

Sounds like a wise choice. I'm out of here. The kingdom is about peace and righteousness and joy in the Holy Spirit. We all stumble over contention, it makes us weak. Later Scratch and Frogster. Peace
 
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Galatians 5:1 calls the law a yoke of bondage.

Acts 15:10 uses the word yoke in reference to bondage of the law.

I Tim 6:1 referst to yoke of masters which would be slave owners. Slavery is bondage last time I heard. Has it changed?

 
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Sure...they are

at least you agree that they are righteousness.

but they were added to show no one is righteous. Just like Rom 3:20.

i don't agree with this, based on deut 5:33 and 26:17, for starters. and they were'nt added! read gen 39, they were already there!

Psalm 143:2 Enter not into judgment with your servant,
for no one living is righteous before you.

not sure what this has to do with the commandments being righteousness.

Ok, now why does 1 Cor 15:56, say the power of sin is law?

i've already answered you on this in another thread.
 
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where else was sin aroused, by the spritual law? In the new man, or the old?


7;5For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death.

i can't answer this, because i disagree with your premise!
 
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You disagree with the premise of Scripture?

It's not that hard; the law was never given to give life, but to include all under sin. That's our initial access to Christ, who became sin, for us. We just renew our minds to the fact we ARE in Him

and rise with him, walking in newness of Life
 
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no they weren't there, this shows there was a time where there was no law, loud and clear. And if u understood federal headship, and what he was teaching, u would totally understand why that had to be.

5;13for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.


What does 430 years later, and "which came" mean to u?


3;17This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.
 
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i can't answer this, because i disagree with your premise!

nice try, you just don't want to talk about the law dynamic, because 7, and gal 5;16-18, are way to much, to prove my point, not to mention 6;14, and 1 cor 15;56.
 
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