Hezekiah

Barraco · Sep 22, 2024

I found something interesting about the life of Hezekiah. After God saved Jerusalem by slaying Sennacherib’s Assyrian army, Hezekiah fell ill and asked for more time so he could have a son to inherit the throne of David. Hold that thought.

Go back to Genesis where God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac the promised son. Abraham obeyed, considering that God would raise Isaac up from the dead because He knew God would keep His promises. Now also hold that thought.

When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked a candidate of their choosing. They did not choose God to be their king. But God selected David while Saul was still king.

If Hezekiah had trusted God to raise him back from the dead and not ask for more time to have a son, God Himself would have picked the next king. And it would have been God. But Hezekiah wanted more time and his heir was one of the wickedest rulers to ever take the throne in Jerusalem. After God gave Hezekiah more time, Hezekiah showed all of his kingdom to Babylon and God sent Isaiah to tell him that his kingdom would be given over to the Babylonians after his death.

Why is all this relevant to eschatology? It shows us when the elect will be sealed and thus when Israel receives their Messiah. The Islamic jihadists are the antitype of the Assyrians who arrogantly boast that they will conquer the world. The elect of the nation of Israel are the antitype of Hezekiah trusting in God’s deliverance. The Babylonians are the Gentile alliance made with Jerusalem and they will one day take Jerusalem by force.

Thoughts?

tranquil · Sep 23, 2024

Barraco said:
I found something interesting about the life of Hezekiah. After God saved Jerusalem by slaying Sennacherib’s Assyrian army, Hezekiah fell ill and asked for more time so he could have a son to inherit the throne of David. Hold that thought.

Go back to Genesis where God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac the promised son. Abraham obeyed, considering that God would raise Isaac up from the dead because He knew God would keep His promises. Now also hold that thought.

When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked a candidate of their choosing. They did not choose God to be their king. But God selected David while Saul was still king.

If Hezekiah had trusted God to raise him back from the dead and not ask for more time to have a son, God Himself would have picked the next king. And it would have been God. But Hezekiah wanted more time and his heir was one of the wickedest rulers to ever take the throne in Jerusalem. After God gave Hezekiah more time, Hezekiah showed all of his kingdom to Babylon and God sent Isaiah to tell him that his kingdom would be given over to the Babylonians after his death.

Why is all this relevant to eschatology? It shows us when the elect will be sealed and thus when Israel receives their Messiah. The Islamic jihadists are the antitype of the Assyrians who arrogantly boast that they will conquer the world. The elect of the nation of Israel are the antitype of Hezekiah trusting in God’s deliverance. The Babylonians are the Gentile alliance made with Jerusalem and they will one day take Jerusalem by force.

Thoughts?

The Assyrians = ISIS.

I am okay with this. ISIS controlled by the Medes and Persians (Russia & Iran) is a probably better description. But it should be noted that it is not the Assyrian that calls himself God. The Assyrian is more analogous to the False Prophet.

Hezekiah = elect.

I don't see how you are connecting these two. If Hezekiah died, then the messiah would come...

Babylon taking over Jerusalem.

Yes.

The Assyrians are the 'locusts' of the 5th Trumpet (the 'flood' that pours in from the north in Jeremiah 1:13-16 and Isaiah 8:6-8 which is the length of 5 months of the 'flood' from Genesis 7:24). These are the 'people of the prince to come' in Daniel 9:26.

At the 6th Trumpet, Babylon is removing the Assyrians, destroying Jerusalem in the process. One month later, the king of Babylon of Isaiah 14, Lucifer, confirms the Daniel 9:27 (the mighty angel of Revelation 10) and breaks it at the 7th Trumpet.

Presumably, the abomination of desolation is worshipping Tyre at the start of the 1290 days and Lucifer breaks the covenant at the end of the 1290 days, then Lucifer gives his throne to the Antichrist and False Prophet with his idol.

Babylon taking over Jerusalem is the Daniel 7 fourth beast, which upon its death, the 'leopard, bear, and lion' are given an extension of time in Daniel 7:11-12 (meaning the Beast from the sea's Leopard, Bear, and Lion of Rev 13:1-4.)

In short, it appears that because of Israel's sins, the Assyrians are allowed to take over Israel. The 'hero' that saves Israel is the King of Babylon, Lucifer, the dragon, who will confirm the Daniel 9:27 covenant. When the King of Babylon breaks the covenant at the 7th Trumpet, he gives his throne over to apostate Israel and Israel's enemies. Because Lucifer will be a bad king, this gives the illusion that apostate Israel is 'good'.

Barraco · Sep 23, 2024

tranquil said:
The Assyrians = ISIS.

I am okay with this. ISIS controlled by the Medes and Persians (Russia & Iran) is a probably better description. But it should be noted that it is not the Assyrian that calls himself God. The Assyrian is more analogous to the False Prophet.

Hezekiah = elect.

I don't see how you are connecting these two. If Hezekiah died, then the messiah would come...

Babylon taking over Jerusalem.

Yes.

The Assyrians are the 'locusts' of the 5th Trumpet (the 'flood' that pours in from the north in Jeremiah 1:13-16 and Isaiah 8:6-8 which is the length of 5 months of the 'flood' from Genesis 7:24). These are the 'people of the prince to come' in Daniel 9:26.

At the 6th Trumpet, Babylon is removing the Assyrians, destroying Jerusalem in the process. One month later, the king of Babylon of Isaiah 14, Lucifer, confirms the Daniel 9:27 (the mighty angel of Revelation 10) and breaks it at the 7th Trumpet.

Presumably, the abomination of desolation is worshipping Tyre at the start of the 1290 days and Lucifer breaks the covenant at the end of the 1290 days, then Lucifer gives his throne to the Antichrist and False Prophet with his idol.

Babylon taking over Jerusalem is the Daniel 7 fourth beast, which upon its death, the 'leopard, bear, and lion' are given an extension of time in Daniel 7:11-12 (meaning the Beast from the sea's Leopard, Bear, and Lion of Rev 13:1-4.)

In short, it appears that because of Israel's sins, the Assyrians are allowed to take over Israel. The 'hero' that saves Israel is the King of Babylon, Lucifer, the dragon, who will confirm the Daniel 9:27 covenant. When the King of Babylon breaks the covenant at the 7th Trumpet, he gives his throne over to apostate Israel and Israel's enemies. Because Lucifer will be a bad king, this gives the illusion that apostate Israel is 'good'.

I used to agree until I saw the pattern in the other books like Joel, Zechariah, Isaiah, and Ezekiel. Here is the pattern:

1. Israel comes out of bondage and settles in their own land
2. Surrounding nations gather against the Jews to stop them from living go among them
3. The “Assyrian” invades and conquers the surrounding nations, destroying their cultural identity
4. The “Assyrian” besieges Jerusalem with a massive and terrifying army but is destroyed by God’s divine providence
5. Israel experiences blessings for a time but it’s leaders become idolatrous and wicked, persecuting the prophets sent to them by God
6. God sends the “Babylonians” to destroy the power of the Jews and punish them for their sins
7. God restores Israel after a period of time and calls them back to Jerusalem to rebuild it

It happened between Moses and Josiah, Zerubbabel and John of Gischala, and David Ben Gurian and the false messiah to come.

The Assyrian are the arrogant invaders that have been compared to locusts stripping the land of all its identity and replacing it with their own people. These are the Islamic jihadists led by Iran. God will deal with them when they send their armies against Jerusalem in the near future. Revelation 12:16 seems to suggest an earthquake or some sort of even where the earth swallows the FLOOD from the RIVER (Al Aqsa Flood?).

It is only afterward that the Babylonian will rise, first as an alliance formed to combat the Assyrian and then as an empire led by one ruler. In the days of Hezekiah, the Assyrian was Sennacherib and the Babylonian was Nebuchadnezzar. During the days of the Judas Maccabees, the Assyrian was Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the Babylonian was Augustus Caesar. I think the Assyrian today is Khomeini’s forces in Syria and Lebanon. The Babylonian, I believe, will be revealed only after the Assyrian’s armies are destroyed outside Jerusalem.

And as far as Hezekiah, check out commentary on Isaiah 9. Jews interpret the many titles to be pointing to Hezekiah’s name. But Hezekiah was only a type of Jesus, who was to rule with an everlasting rule only AFTER he died and was resurrected. In our time, the two witnesses will point to Jesus as the fulfillment of those messianic prophecies while the false messiah reigns. Revelation 11:13 suggests they will only succeed in turning peoples hearts to God when they are killed and resurrected.

Looking forward to your thoughts.

tranquil · Sep 23, 2024

Barraco said:
I used to agree until I saw the pattern in the other books like Joel, Zechariah, Isaiah, and Ezekiel. Here is the pattern:

1. Israel comes out of bondage and settles in their own land
2. Surrounding nations gather against the Jews to stop them from living go among them
3. The “Assyrian” invades and conquers the surrounding nations, destroying their cultural identity
4. The “Assyrian” besieges Jerusalem with a massive and terrifying army but is destroyed by God’s divine providence
5. Israel experiences blessings for a time but it’s leaders become idolatrous and wicked, persecuting the prophets sent to them by God
6. God sends the “Babylonians” to destroy the power of the Jews and punish them for their sins
7. God restores Israel after a period of time and calls them back to Jerusalem to rebuild it

It happened between Moses and Josiah, Zerubbabel and John of Gischala, and David Ben Gurian and the false messiah to come.

The Assyrian are the arrogant invaders that have been compared to locusts stripping the land of all its identity and replacing it with their own people. These are the Islamic jihadists led by Iran. God will deal with them when they send their armies against Jerusalem in the near future. Revelation 12:16 seems to suggest an earthquake or some sort of even where the earth swallows the FLOOD from the RIVER (Al Aqsa Flood?).

It is only afterward that the Babylonian will rise, first as an alliance formed to combat the Assyrian and then as an empire led by one ruler. In the days of Hezekiah, the Assyrian was Sennacherib and the Babylonian was Nebuchadnezzar. During the days of the Judas Maccabees, the Assyrian was Antiochus IV Epiphanes and the Babylonian was Augustus Caesar. I think the Assyrian today is Khomeini’s forces in Syria and Lebanon. The Babylonian, I believe, will be revealed only after the Assyrian’s armies are destroyed outside Jerusalem.

And as far as Hezekiah, check out commentary on Isaiah 9. Jews interpret the many titles to be pointing to Hezekiah’s name. But Hezekiah was only a type of Jesus, who was to rule with an everlasting rule only AFTER he died and was resurrected. In our time, the two witnesses will point to Jesus as the fulfillment of those messianic prophecies while the false messiah reigns. Revelation 11:13 suggests they will only succeed in turning peoples hearts to God when they are killed and resurrected.

Looking forward to your thoughts.

the Rev 12:1 sign of the son of man is the Isaiah 7-8 sign of Immanuel.

This sign (occurring at the 7th Trumpet) indicates that Assyria will attack (apostate ten tribe) Israel and Syria to the benefit of Jerusalem (the child gets to eat curds and honey due to warfare clearing the way for cows and bees to flourish).

Assyrian, then Babylon, then Assyrian again.

During the attack of the Assyrian, 'Hezekiah' is putting his faith in Egypt, creating the 1st woe (defined as putting faith in others, like Egypt, instead of God as in Isaiah 30-31).

Isaiah 36:4And the Rabshakeh said to them, “Say to Hezekiah, ‘Thus says the great king, the king of Assyria: On what do you rest this trust of yours? 5Do you think that mere words are strategy and power for war? In whom do you now trust, that you have rebelled against me? 6Behold, you are trusting in Egypt, that broken reed of a staff, which will pierce the hand of any man who leans on it. Such is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all who trust in him. 7But if you say to me, “We trust in the Lord our God,” is it not he whose high places and altars Hezekiah has removed, saying to Judah and to Jerusalem, “You shall worship before this altar”? 8Come now, make a wager with my master the king of Assyria: I will give you two thousand horses, if you are able on your part to set riders on them. 9How then can you repulse a single captain among the least of my master’s servants, when you trust in Egypt for chariots and for horsemen? 10Moreover, is it without the Lord that I have come up against this land to destroy it? The Lord said to me, “Go up against this land and destroy it.”’”

The 'broken reed that pierces a man's hand' is one example of the mark of the beast (probably a microchip?).

Israel is scattered, then gathered. Once gathered, they choose a leader for themselves. The king of Babylon is attempting to gather the scattered remnants of Israel & Judah (which is why he is called the abominable Branch in Isaiah 14:19 - Branch means the one who will gather the scattered remnants as in Isaiah 11:1-12).

Barraco · Sep 23, 2024

tranquil said:
the Rev 12:1 sign of the son of man is the Isaiah 7-8 sign of Immanuel.

I disagree. The sign of Immanuel was to assure Ahaz that the alliance of Samaria and Damascus would be defeated within a few years. That occurred with the Assyrians conquered Ephraim and Syria. Once the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, the Babylonians developed an alliance with Media and Persia. Once Sennacherib's army was defeated, the king of Judah switched alliances from Egypt to Babylon.

tranquil said:
This sign (occurring at the 7th Trumpet) indicates that Assyria will attack (apostate ten tribe) Israel and Syria to the benefit of Jerusalem (the child gets to eat curds and honey due to warfare clearing the way for cows and bees to flourish).

Assyrian, then Babylon, then Assyrian again.

I don't see that pattern and I don't think it happens that late.

1. Syriac-Northern Kingdom Alliance
2. Assyrian invasion
3. Babylonian alliance
4. Babylonian captivity

tranquil said:
During the attack of the Assyrian, 'Hezekiah' is putting his faith in Egypt, creating the 1st woe (defined as putting faith in others, like Egypt, instead of God as in Isaiah 30-31).

Isaiah 36:4And the Rabshakeh said to them, “Say to Hezekiah, ‘Thus says the great king, the king of Assyria: On what do you rest this trust of yours? 5Do you think that mere words are strategy and power for war? In whom do you now trust, that you have rebelled against me? 6Behold, you are trusting in Egypt, that broken reed of a staff, which will pierce the hand of any man who leans on it. Such is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all who trust in him. 7But if you say to me, “We trust in the Lord our God,” is it not he whose high places and altars Hezekiah has removed, saying to Judah and to Jerusalem, “You shall worship before this altar”? 8Come now, make a wager with my master the king of Assyria: I will give you two thousand horses, if you are able on your part to set riders on them. 9How then can you repulse a single captain among the least of my master’s servants, when you trust in Egypt for chariots and for horsemen? 10Moreover, is it without the Lord that I have come up against this land to destroy it? The Lord said to me, “Go up against this land and destroy it.”’”

Egypt was offensive primarily because that represented backsliding into captivity. It would be the equivalent to Jews in Israel fleeing back to Europe and the Middle Eastern nations after having been persecuted for so long. Assyria was brought to destroy idolatry in the land as well as to demonstrate God's glory to all the nations.

tranquil said:
The 'broken reed that pierces a man's hand' is one example of the mark of the beast (probably a microchip?).

I don't think so, but that is a whole other discussion. A good place to start, though, is Daniel 3.

tranquil said:
Israel is scattered, then gathered.

They are being gathered as we speak and have been since 1948. The scattering finishes when the Assyrian is defeated.

tranquil said:
Once gathered, they choose a leader for themselves. The king of Babylon is attempting to gather the scattered remnants of Israel & Judah (which is why he is called the abominable Branch in Isaiah 14:19 - Branch means the one who will gather the scattered remnants as in Isaiah 11:1-12).

I agree on the connection. The leader they choose for themselves is the false messiah, who will rule over the post-"Assyrian" alliance, aka "Babylon".

tranquil · Sep 24, 2024

Barraco said:
I disagree. The sign of Immanuel was to assure Ahaz that the alliance of Samaria and Damascus would be defeated within a few years. That occurred with the Assyrians conquered Ephraim and Syria. Once the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom, the Babylonians developed an alliance with Media and Persia. Once Sennacherib's army was defeated, the king of Judah switched alliances from Egypt to Babylon.

The Isaiah 7 & 8 sign of Immanuel is for the end. It is the same context as this from Isaiah 17:

1This is the burden against Damascus: “Behold, Damascus is no longer a city; it has become a heap of ruins. 2The cities of Aroer are forsaken; they will be left to the flocks, which will lie down with no one to fear.

3The fortress will disappear from Ephraim, and the sovereignty from Damascus. The remnant of Aram will be like the splendor of the Israelites,”

When Damascus is no longer a city, then the flocks lie down with no one to fear (the same as the Isaiah 7 &8 child gets to eat curds and honey because the cows and bees get increased land for pasture) and in the same context of being in alliance with Ephraim.

The Rev 12:1 child and the sign of Immanuel 'child' that is being born symbolizes the kingdom of heaven (at the 7th Trumpet) which is here in Isaiah 66

7“Before she was in labor, she gave birth; before she was in pain, she delivered a boy. 8Who has heard of such as this? Who has seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be delivered in an instant? Yet as soon as Zion was in labor, she gave birth to her children.

9Shall I bring a baby to the point of birth and not deliver it?” says the LORD. “Or will I who deliver close the womb?” says your God.

10Be glad for Jerusalem and rejoice over her, all who love her. Rejoice greatly with her, all who mourn over her,

Barraco · Sep 25, 2024

tranquil said:
The Isaiah 7 & 8 sign of Immanuel is for the end. It is the same context as this from Isaiah 17:

1This is the burden against Damascus: “Behold, Damascus is no longer a city; it has become a heap of ruins. 2The cities of Aroer are forsaken; they will be left to the flocks, which will lie down with no one to fear.

3The fortress will disappear from Ephraim, and the sovereignty from Damascus. The remnant of Aram will be like the splendor of the Israelites,”

This happened during the time of Ahaz, prior to the reign of Hezekiah. It was significant because the dominant threat against Judah at that time was the alliance of the northern kingdom (now occupied by Hezbollah in Lebanon) and the kingdom of Aram (current day Syria with its capital in Damascus). The sign of Immanuel was an assurance that God was with Judah and would end both countries before the child could know right and wrong. That occurred when Assyria conquered both nations.

Prior to Hezbollah, there were internal conflicts in both Lebanon and Syria, causing the Jews to flee to the nation of Israel. By the time Hezbollah came, there were virtually no Jews left in those areas. Hezbollah, like Assyria, has created so many problems for both Syria and Lebanon, even overthrowing control of the countries from their governments. This, I believe, is how we should be interpreting this

tranquil said:
When Damascus is no longer a city, then the flocks lie down with no one to fear (the same as the Isaiah 7 &8 child gets to eat curds and honey because the cows and bees get increased land for pasture) and in the same context of being in alliance with Ephraim.

The Rev 12:1 child and the sign of Immanuel 'child' that is being born symbolizes the kingdom of heaven (at the 7th Trumpet) which is here in Isaiah 66

7“Before she was in labor, she gave birth; before she was in pain, she delivered a boy. 8Who has heard of such as this? Who has seen such things? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be delivered in an instant? Yet as soon as Zion was in labor, she gave birth to her children.

9Shall I bring a baby to the point of birth and not deliver it?” says the LORD. “Or will I who deliver close the womb?” says your God.
10Be glad for Jerusalem and rejoice over her, all who love her. Rejoice greatly with her, all who mourn over her,

The child is Zion (Genesis 37:9-10) waiting for her Messiah to come (Micah 4:9-11). I think we'll see it all fit together well very soon.

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