Yes. I am going to directly state that this is wrong. Even if humans inherently saw divinity in nature, there would be no way of knowing WHICH deity did the work.So you read where St Paul mentions that no human has an excuse as we can see the Divine attributes of God in His creation?
Yes. I am going to directly state that this is wrong. Even if humans inherently saw divinity in nature, there would be no way of knowing WHICH deity did the work.
Last I checked, Yahweh didn't appreciate any worship of deities besides itself, so that memorial wouldn't do anything for them... should the god you worship exist.Yet like the Athenians they had a memorial to the UNKNOWN GOD.
They were pretty smart folks.
Here's my problem, I believe in evolution, and it brings up doubts especially in the OT... were the OT writers simply writing what they "thought" and the way they "felt" about God, and not in an actual words God actually said..
Well, my problem is I believe the scientific evidence which casts doubt on some of the Bible writers, BUT, I have too much personal experiencial evidence of a God and other spirits existing on another side beside this one...
http://www.christianforums.com/thre...periencing-part-of-a-pm-conversation.7843548/
My personal experiencial evidence stands on it's very own as enough proof for me, but have I encountered the same God (YHWH) spoke about in the OT, some OT acts and verses by God cast a shadow of a doubt on him being a or the God of Love...
Anyone help?
God Bless!
You don't have to explain it; you only have to accept the reality of which Genesis 3 speaks.
Christianity is NOT opposed to evolution;
Last I checked, Yahweh didn't appreciate any worship of deities besides itself, so that memorial wouldn't do anything for them... should the god you worship exist.
Please don't ignore the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not worship false idols. Also, don't forget that in Jesus's own words, his coming didn't make the rules of the OT go away. If the NT disagrees, it's a contradiction.Please read Acts 17 for context.
Please don't ignore the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not worship false idols. Also, don't forget that in Jesus's own words, his coming didn't make the rules of the OT go away. If the NT disagrees, it's a contradiction.
My point is that as long as people worship other deities, the god of the bible is not pleased, even if they acknowledge it along with the others. Also, if you want me to read a portion of the bible, either quote it, or if you want me to read the entirety of Acts all over again, you are out of luck, I am not putting that much time into 1 response. That would be ridiculous.You may have missed the entire point.
My point is that as long as people worship other deities, the god of the bible is not pleased, even if they acknowledge it along with the others. Also, if you want me to read a portion of the bible, either quote it, or if you want me to read the entirety of Acts all over again, you are out of luck, I am not putting that much time into 1 response. That would be ridiculous.
Please don't ignore the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not worship false idols. Also, don't forget that in Jesus's own words, his coming didn't make the rules of the OT go away.
Last I checked, Yahweh didn't appreciate any worship of deities besides itself, so that memorial wouldn't do anything for them... should the god you worship exist.
redleghunter said: ↑
So you read where St Paul mentions that no human has an excuse as we can see the Divine attributes of God in His creation?
Yes. I am going to directly state that this is wrong. Even if humans inherently saw divinity in nature, there would be no way of knowing WHICH deity did the work.
Yes, I know the scripture. My point is that such punishment is unjustified for those that never had the opportunity to be exposed to the religion. Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, no person is going to become a Christian without being exposed to the religion in some way.All mankind is held accountable before God and will go to hell if they do not respond to the Holy Spirit. That is stated in Romans 3:19-21 and in Galatians 3:22-24.
But that does not mean that they are lost simply because they don't have "enough of the story".
In John 16 God "convicts the WORLD" of sin and righteousness and judgment (not just Christians).
In Romans 2 - those with no Bible at all are doing 'instinctively the things of the Law SHOWING the work of the LAW of God written on the heart" - and judged as being saints - according to Romans 2.
So it is not the "completeness of the details in the story" that is saving them.
in Christ,
Bob
It happens from time to time. Just because we may disagree in some regard, doesn't mean we will in others. I find it more interesting what ideas I share with others than what I clash with them on.I am tempted to agree with PsychoSarah -- ??
I am talking about the basics, such as the 10 commandments.Depends on the rule.
In Hebrews 10 - the rules about killing animals - end.
Ceremonial laws end.
And of course the civil laws end when the sovereignty of the nation ended.
But if you point is that the moral law - the law that defines sin did not end - I agree.
Please don't ignore the 10 commandments. Thou shalt not worship false idols. Also, don't forget that in Jesus's own words, his coming didn't make the rules of the OT go away.
I am talking about the basics, such as the 10 commandments.
Sorry, sometimes I forget how vague the bible can be, and how hard that makes "establishing the basics".Eph 6:2 2 "Honour thy father and mother; which is the first Commandment with promise;"
"First Commandment" where?
In what unit of LAW still upheld in the New Testament does the 5th commandment represent the "First Commandment with a promise"?
It is not the first promise in the books of Moses.
It is not the first promise in the New Testament.
So what unit of Law is that?
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