HELP!!!...should I believe THIS prophecy?!

Chosen2010 · Jan 20, 2010

Hi Everyone

PLEASE HELP ME!!!

Here's the issue...for as long as I can remember, my mom has been proclaiming that she has these visions in which she can see things such as what is to come in the future, peoples true intentions & colors, etc. I usually try not to let stories of her visions affect or upset me too much until now. The latest vision that I was told about is one concerning my future husband. According to my mom she has seen his exact face & knows his career likewise. The problem is that I recently delivered my first child out of wedlock. I do realize that I have committed a sin however, my childs father & I are currently working things out & trusting in God to lead us in the right direction when it comes to our relationship & raising our family. We do plan to get married in the near future but my mom is constantly trying to enforce another direction on me by saying God is telling her "such & such". FURTHURMORE, WHAT WORRIES ME IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST (meaning years ago) & EVEN UP UNTIL NOW MY MOM HAS PROCLAIMED VISIONS & THEY HAVE NOT COME TO PAST OR PROVEN TO BE TRUE....For a while now I have been praying for God to move in certain areas involving our relationship because in the past we did struggle on some things BUT I have definately seen Him move & turn certain situations around for us which moves me to believe that we could in fact be moving in the right direction. Likeiwse I know all begginings are not prefect. So, should I feel bad for not jumping out on faith with my moms "vision from the Lord"? She says that I by following my heart & asking God to continue turning things around for my family that I am relying on my OWN UNDERSTANDING & DESIRES. HELP!!!!

(By all means I do believe in dreams & vision for I have had a couple in which God has spoken to me. For example, I dreamed of the tsunami that took place in East Asia a few years ago. I was able to see the actual disatser and the racial identity of the victims)

bibleblevr · Jan 20, 2010

The Biblical thing to do if you have a child out out wedlock is to marry that person and stay with him for the rest of your life. Any advice to the contrary is against the law of God and you will not be happy unless you are in his will. If there is advice or prophecies that are contrary to the laws of God, then they must be ignored as foolishness.

Have Faith in God, his word and his promises anything else you should be skeptical of.

Chosen2010 · Jan 20, 2010

Thanks Bibleblevr!
I guess the thing is that she thinks my baby's father is not the one God has for me because of our problems in the past. We are both in our earlt 20's & there were some maturity issues especially in the beggining. But I believe God can turn it around & from what I can see so far, has been doing just that. There is still some growth that needs to happen but the will to do so is there.

PyroZero · Jan 20, 2010

Chosen2010 said:
Hi Everyone

PLEASE HELP ME!!!

Here's the issue...for as long as I can remember, my mom has been proclaiming that she has these visions in which she can see things such as what is to come in the future, peoples true intentions & colors, etc. I usually try not to let stories of her visions affect or upset me too much until now. The latest vision that I was told about is one concerning my future husband. According to my mom she has seen his exact face & knows his career likewise. The problem is that I recently delivered my first child out of wedlock. I do realize that I have committed a sin however, my childs father & I are currently working things out & trusting in God to lead us in the right direction when it comes to our relationship & raising our family. We do plan to get married in the near future but my mom is constantly trying to enforce another direction on me by saying God is telling her "such & such". FURTHURMORE, WHAT WORRIES ME IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST (meaning years ago) & EVEN UP UNTIL NOW MY MOM HAS PROCLAIMED VISIONS & THEY HAVE NOT COME TO PAST OR PROVEN TO BE TRUE....For a while now I have been praying for God to move in certain areas involving our relationship because in the past we did struggle on some things BUT I have definately seen Him move & turn certain situations around for us which moves me to believe that we could in fact be moving in the right direction. Likeiwse I know all begginings are not prefect. So, should I feel bad for not jumping out on faith with my moms "vision from the Lord"? She says that I by following my heart & asking God to continue turning things around for my family that I am relying on my OWN UNDERSTANDING & DESIRES. HELP!!!!

(By all means I do believe in dreams & vision for I have had a couple in which God has spoken to me. For example, I dreamed of the tsunami that took place in East Asia a few years ago. I was able to see the actual disatser and the racial identity of the victims)

@Chosen2010:

I do not know if your Mother is telling the Exact Truth, She may or may not be, However, I Suggest you pray on it, Don't go listening to Her, If it may be the Enemy talking through Her, Or Her trying to Control your life because she doesn't like your Boyfriend, However I also tell you to take into Consideration about marrying your Boyfriend, Make sure he loves you and make sure your making the right choice. So my only advice Pray about both. Because it can very well be She is trying to control you.

God Bless & Take Care
~PyroZero

ForHisGlory2009 · Jan 20, 2010

PyroZero said:
@Chosen2010:

I do not know if your Mother is telling the Exact Truth, She may or may not be, However, I Suggest you pray on it, Don't go listening to Her, If it may be the Enemy talking through Her, Or Her trying to Control your life because she doesn't like your Boyfriend, However I also tell you to take into Consideration about marrying your Boyfriend, Make sure he loves you and make sure your making the right choice. So my only advice Pray about both. Because it can very well be She is trying to control you.

God Bless & Take Care
~PyroZero

I have to agree on this one, plus if God is warning her like she say he is, I have to say wouldn't God be warning you first or at least once on your own esp. if you wasn't believe what she was saying, usually when a word is from the Lord I believe he prepares the persons' heart to recieve it, and use it as a confirmation. But since that isn't the chance I don't know if she is telling you the exact truth. Also, you already had a child our of wedlock you had mentioned, someone said it would be biblical to get married. I personally have not read that, at least I don't think it's in the bible. But just because something sounds biblical doesn't always mean it was taking in the correct content and also that it's in the bible. We can acknowledged that the sin was already commited but getting married just because you have a child doesn't undo the sin. Talking to God about that does. So I wouldn't suggest just getting married because there is a child involved sometimes if your married for the wrong reasons it can do more harm than good. Not saying that is the reason that you too are working it out or anything.

Chosen2010 · Jan 20, 2010

ForHisGlory2009 said:
I have to agree on this one, plus if God is warning her like she say he is, I have to say wouldn't God be warning you first or at least once on your own esp. if you wasn't believe what she was saying, usually when a word is from the Lord I believe he prepares the persons' heart to recieve it, and use it as a confirmation. But since that isn't the chance I don't know if she is telling you the exact truth. Also, you already had a child our of wedlock you had mentioned, someone said it would be biblical to get married. I personally have not read that, at least I don't think it's in the bible. But just because something sounds biblical doesn't always mean it was taking in the correct content and also that it's in the bible. We can acknowledged that the sin was already commited but getting married just because you have a child doesn't undo the sin. Talking to God about that does. So I wouldn't suggest just getting married because there is a child involved sometimes if your married for the wrong reasons it can do more harm than good. Not saying that is the reason that you too are working it out or anything.

I agree with the both of you. Thank You for your input! I was also thinking the same thing ForHisGlory. I feel as though God knows how I am unsure about alot of things my mom has to say as far as her visions, etc. Furthurmore, our relationship has not always been great for serious reasons that will remain unmentioned but I would think that if God were to speak to me through someone or something, that it would be a source in which I can trust....I also know that just marrying someone with reason of a child is not always the best thing but alot of other things should be taken into consideration! This issue is definately one that I will continue to pray on.

ForHisGlory2009 · Jan 20, 2010

PyroZero said:
@Chosen2010:

I do not know if your Mother is telling the Exact Truth, She may or may not be, However, I Suggest you pray on it, Don't go listening to Her, If it may be the Enemy talking through Her, Or Her trying to Control your life because she doesn't like your Boyfriend, However I also tell you to take into Consideration about marrying your Boyfriend, Make sure he loves you and make sure your making the right choice. So my only advice Pray about both. Because it can very well be She is trying to control you.

God Bless & Take Care
~PyroZero

Chosen2010 said:
I agree with the both of you. Thank You for your input! I was also thinking the same thing ForHisGlory. I feel as though God knows how I am unsure about alot of things my mom has to say as far as her visions, etc. Furthurmore, our relationship has not always been great for serious reasons that will remain unmentioned but I would think that if God were to speak to me through someone or something, that it would be a source in which I can trust....I also know that just marrying someone with reason of a child is not always the best thing but alot of other things should be taken into consideration! This issue is definately one that I will continue to pray on.

Your welcome Yeah that was the first thing that came to mind after reading what you had said. But yeah the best thing to do is to continue to pray on that and when it comes to mind I will pray on it as well

GaryP · Jan 20, 2010

Your mother is playing with the dark side, She appears to be caught up in new age thought. Many who are, just use the word prophecy instead of fortune telling. Like I have told this forum many times before. When someone states the term " lord ". You have
no idea, who or what is behind the title. The prayer Jesus taught is " Our Father ". Someone changed it to the lord's prayer. If you see a group of men and you yell
" hey mister " They all turn around. If you yell hey Gary P, I will turn around. Same thing in the spiritual world. Call out lord, and everybody and their brother will answer.
lord is a title not a name. So lets test you mother's action and words. Do they point
to the Father in Heaven, or do they point to the future or creation. If someone says
it is from the lord, most will believe, I will reply, " which lord are you talking about ".
This freaks everyone out and they get mad.
I do not know you mother, she must be a good person. But if she is only concern about her mental powers then you should go with caution. About your dream of
the tidal wave, was it before or after?

Chosen2010 · Jan 20, 2010

GaryP said:
Your mother is playing with the dark side, She appears to be caught up in new age thought. Many who are, just use the word prophecy instead of fortune telling. Like I have told this forum many times before. When someone states the term " lord ". You have
no idea, who or what is behind the title. The prayer Jesus taught is " Our Father ". Someone changed it to the lord's prayer. If you see a group of men and you yell
" hey mister " They all turn around. If you yell hey Gary P, I will turn around. Same thing in the spiritual world. Call out lord, and everybody and their brother will answer.
lord is a title not a name. So lets test you mother's action and words. Do they point
to the Father in Heaven, or do they point to the future or creation. If someone says
it is from the lord, most will believe, I will reply, " which lord are you talking about ".
This freaks everyone out and they get mad.
I do not know you mother, she must be a good person. But if she is only concern about her mental powers then you should go with caution. About your dream of
the tidal wave, was it before or after?

Thanks for your input! I was actually the one using the title "the Lord" reffering to God. I wouldnt say that she is messing with the dark side but she may be misinterpreting certain things or mixing her opinions & wants with twhat she thinks God may be telling her & the dream about the tsunami was before it happened.

Chosen2010 · Jan 20, 2010

ForHisGlory2009 said:
Your welcome Yeah that was the first thing that came to mind after reading what you had said. But yeah the best thing to do is to continue to pray on that and when it comes to mind I will pray on it as well

thanks alot love!!!

ForHisGlory2009 · Jan 20, 2010

Chosen2010 said:
thanks alot love!!!

your welcome, no problem

Firewater · Jan 21, 2010

I may have missed it in the thread. But in thinking/praying about your decision to marry the father of your child another point to consider is whether he has a relationship with Jesus - is he a Christian?

Praying for the Lord to lead & guide you.

God bless

ChildOfGod97 · Jan 22, 2010

Chosen2010 said:
Hi Everyone

PLEASE HELP ME!!!

Here's the issue...for as long as I can remember, my mom has been proclaiming that she has these visions in which she can see things such as what is to come in the future, peoples true intentions & colors, etc. I usually try not to let stories of her visions affect or upset me too much until now. The latest vision that I was told about is one concerning my future husband. According to my mom she has seen his exact face & knows his career likewise. The problem is that I recently delivered my first child out of wedlock. I do realize that I have committed a sin however, my childs father & I are currently working things out & trusting in God to lead us in the right direction when it comes to our relationship & raising our family. We do plan to get married in the near future but my mom is constantly trying to enforce another direction on me by saying God is telling her "such & such". FURTHURMORE, WHAT WORRIES ME IS THAT THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES IN THE PAST (meaning years ago) & EVEN UP UNTIL NOW MY MOM HAS PROCLAIMED VISIONS & THEY HAVE NOT COME TO PAST OR PROVEN TO BE TRUE....For a while now I have been praying for God to move in certain areas involving our relationship because in the past we did struggle on some things BUT I have definately seen Him move & turn certain situations around for us which moves me to believe that we could in fact be moving in the right direction. Likeiwse I know all begginings are not prefect. So, should I feel bad for not jumping out on faith with my moms "vision from the Lord"? She says that I by following my heart & asking God to continue turning things around for my family that I am relying on my OWN UNDERSTANDING & DESIRES. HELP!!!!

(By all means I do believe in dreams & vision for I have had a couple in which God has spoken to me. For example, I dreamed of the tsunami that took place in East Asia a few years ago. I was able to see the actual disatser and the racial identity of the victims)

We are expected to do on such things as with anything else: evidence.

Never let anyone convince you to not use your mind on matters. We use a strong standard for reasoning everyday, if anything should require smarts and rigorous logic this should. After all, Jesus didn't say 'be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves' talking about reading posts on how to fix your car or bake a cake.

I am not here claiming evidence means 'don't believe in the possibility of dreams and visions'. We have evidence for these things. You mention you have evidence for your dreams. And conflicting evidence against your mom.

Why, on earth, would God - anyway - recommend a couple break up? Or why would God recommend you look for someone else while with someone?

That is not God.

That is evidence against her vision, evidence I find conclusive.

Doesn't mean she is 'damned to hell', but does mean she needs to wake up and start acting right.

She needs to think.

Everyone gets "something" from bad behavior. They don't want to lose their illusions. Trick is showing them they are not losing anything and get them after what is real, and only good, God.

critical3 · Jan 22, 2010

bibleblevr said:
The Biblical thing to do if you have a child out out wedlock is to marry that person and stay with him for the rest of your life. Any advice to the contrary is against the law of God and you will not be happy unless you are in his will. If there is advice or prophecies that are contrary to the laws of God, then they must be ignored as foolishness.

Have Faith in God, his word and his promises anything else you should be skeptical of.

i disagree.. seek the Lord in prayer, you better make sure hes the right one.

remember: there are no degrees of sin in Gods eyes. He forgives, many people dont.

a little insight.. i was in a situation where i had a child out of marriage. we ended up getting married.. things happened and she turned on me and took my daughter away from me at birth, didnt see her until a month after the hospital.

during this time events happened to lead me to hitting rock bottom and receiving the Lord. (may 17 2009)

during the divorce i tried to reconcile the marriage, didnt work. later on she ended up wanting to try and at church one night claimed she got saved (even went back w/ pastor and prayed). just as matthew 7:20 Jesus said you shall know them by the fruit they bare. she didnt bare the fruit of one whos accepted Jesus. it was more of an 'easy believism' ordeal, thinking because she had said a prayer she was saved.

i had told my lawyer about her receiving the Lord . my court date was final in Aug 09. well he didnt get the papers back until dec. 09. during this time i was praying hard seeking the Lords will and he had already answered NO ITS NOT HER. but yet i was trying to say it was me, this, that because i wanted my family back. i finally was obedient to the Lord and let the papers go through.

all in all, you need to seek the Lords will and have him to show you what to do. you do not want to be miserable the rest of your life. he knows the paths you need to take. ask the Master

heron · Jan 23, 2010

Never let anyone convince you to not use your mind on matters.

I have seen very devout prophets veer into the realm of controlling people. It seems to be a typical vulnerability of prophetic people, along with the pride that any of us battle.

A mother in fear is in a vulnerable position, no matter how prophetic or spiritual she is. Mistakes will happen, and she will hear her fears or desire to fix things, because she loves you. And she worries for your future. And mothers worry over their pasts.

God is the one who gives you guidance, and you are the one who makes choices. Don't let anyone else tell you what God's will is for your life. God might send hints or confirmations, but it is more important to Him that you connect with Him, than do what your mother thinks is your destiny.

As said above, use scriptural principles to guide your choices. This will help you discern what prophetic words are risky and which are safe.

Chosen2010 · Jan 23, 2010

critical3 said:
i disagree.. seek the Lord in prayer, you better make sure hes the right one.

later on she ended up wanting to try and at church one night claimed she got saved (even went back w/ pastor and prayed). just as matthew 7:20 Jesus said you shall know them by the fruit they bare. she didnt bare the fruit of one whos accepted Jesus. it was more of an 'easy believism' ordeal, thinking because she had said a prayer she was saved.

he had already answered NO ITS NOT HER. but yet i was trying to say it was me, this, that because i wanted my family back.

all in all, you need to seek the Lords will and have him to show you what to do. you do not want to be miserable the rest of your life. he knows the paths you need to take. ask the Master

Amen!!! I totally agree with you on this one. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WISDOM & INSIGHT!!!

Chosen2010 · Jan 23, 2010

heron said:
I have seen very devout prophets veer into the realm of controlling people. It seems to be a typical vulnerability of prophetic people, along with the pride that any of us battle.

A mother in fear is in a vulnerable position, no matter how prophetic or spiritual she is. Mistakes will happen, and she will hear her fears or desire to fix things, because she loves you. And she worries for your future. And mothers worry over their pasts.

God is the one who gives you guidance, and you are the one who makes choices. Don't let anyone else tell you what God's will is for your life. God might send hints or confirmations, but it is more important to Him that you connect with Him, than do what your mother thinks is your destiny.

As said above, use scriptural principles to guide your choices. This will help you discern what prophetic words are risky and which are safe.

This is true, & it really helps me alot!! I have to definately agree with you! THANKS ALOT!!!

heron · Jan 25, 2010

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Notice that the interpretations in the Bible were believers helping non-believers discern what God was telling them... generally, the believers did not depend on each others' interpretations, because they already had access to God.

Not that it's wrong to ask another believer for help, but if you are in already communication with God, then He will speak with you first about your own life. Others' words may serve as confirmation and reassurance.

Chosen2010 · Jan 27, 2010

You are right. My mom doesnt believe I can properly hear from God. I guess it makes it all harder bc she is my mom. Im still going through this issue this very minute. It's very difficult bc I have been temporarily staying with her until I can begin working again being that I just had my child. Please keep me in your prayers you guys. I need to be able to think clearly in order to move past this & into the right direction.

ChildOfGod97 · Jan 27, 2010

Chosen2010 said:
You are right. My mom doesnt believe I can properly hear from God. I guess it makes it all harder bc she is my mom. Im still going through this issue this very minute. It's very difficult bc I have been temporarily staying with her until I can begin working again being that I just had my child. Please keep me in your prayers you guys. I need to be able to think clearly in order to move past this & into the right direction.

Heron actually pointed this out in a post once... we are to weigh what our parents say, but by no means accept what they say as gospel truth. Believe me, parents can go in all sorts of odd directions.

Some can get "controlling", they mean well, of course, but it can often be to very bad result -- zeal apart from knowledge.

Sometimes this can mean just distancing yourself, keeping your thoughts to yourself, and so on.

HELP!!!...should I believe THIS prophecy?!

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