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I'd think, anyone who is wise would realize something coming from nothing is impossible, therefore God exists.
The point is that you can experiment all you want and still come to the wrong conclusion, even if the experiments go as you expected them to go.I'm still waiting to hear what your point was for the last thing you posted AV.
a being that is super-natural is above nature, and above having to follow nature's laws. it's useless to try to prove or disprove religion through science.
a being that is super-natural is above nature, and above having to follow nature's laws. it's useless to try to prove or disprove religion through science.
Fair enough --- in your Giza example --- how would you test the claims of the observer?But clearly God must interact in such a way with nature such that some on here know a lot about him. He is quite real to them in every way. Can that bit be tested with science?
Imagine living in a 2-dimensional world. And suddenly a cube passed through your world. You'd experience a square. What if a 4-sided pyramid (like the pyramid at Giza) passed through your plane of existence? You'd experience a square that grew smaller.
The point being that if God can interact with reality then surely that interaction can be tested for.
No. Again, God is supernatural, meaning science he can't be tested with natural means.But clearly God must interact in such a way with nature such that some on here know a lot about him. He is quite real to them in every way. Can that bit be tested with science?
see above.Imagine living in a 2-dimensional world. And suddenly a cube passed through your world. You'd experience a square. What if a 4-sided pyramid (like the pyramid at Giza) passed through your plane of existence? You'd experience a square that grew smaller.
The point being that if God can interact with reality then surely that interaction can be tested for.
what flaw? RyanLeeParis only admited that natural ojbects could've existed without a designer---not supreme supernatural beings.What about god? Where did he come from?
Oh he has always been there you say? Wow ok, so you admit something can always have been there without a designer. Afterall, your god isn't designed is he?
So your argument for god being the only possibility is inherently flawed.
Thank you for playing.
- Ectezus
I've only been saying this for almost three years now."a being that is super-natural is above nature, and above having to follow nature's laws. it's useless to try to prove or disprove religion through science."
No. Again, God is supernatural, meaning science he can't be tested with natural means.
Nope --- other than His Word --- He didn't leave an audit trail.Maybe we can't test for god specifically, but we can test for his effects.
Zechariah 4:6 said:Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
Nope --- other than His Word --- He didn't leave an audit trail.
There's nothing to test for ---
It can? Like what, for instance?Sure there is. Not for the stuff he did, but for the stuff he is supposedly doing now. If god is involved in our everyday lives and acting on behalf of faithful Christians, that can be measurable.
It can? Like what, for instance?
not if He uses supernatural methods, such as the burning bush that wasn't consumed the fire---a scientific impossibility.
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