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okay, i cant find a worthwhile answer anywhere on the net. and after searching for one i gotta get this rant off my chest first:

people who say christian rock is bad, contemporary is bad, etc. PULL THE BEAM OUT OF YOUR EYE FIRST! seriously, do something worthwhile. plant a tree. read a book. argue something that matters, like whats in the heart. just because a minor chord sounds better to someone than a major chord doesnt mean anything. Jesus came drinking and eating and they said "look, here's a drunkard and a glutton!" can satan cast out satan? would he? go watch mtv and tell me the same stuff going on there is going on in the christian music. you cant, you just dont like the sound/dont understand it so you hate it. fine. and dont even get me started on people who say you should take instruments out of church. just because the NT doesnt specifically say TO play instruments in church? well, the NT doesnt say to line the floors with carpet either so take that out too. btw, church is a PEOPLE not a building. psalm 33:2 Praise the Lord with the harp; sing unto Him with the psaltery and an instrument with ten strings. That is all.


okay, now that I have that out of the way i actually have a problem. when the Good Lord took me back after my wandering days of youth, i had to give up the music. i wrote many songs, was always playing, producing, creating something (none of it was done in good taste, i can assure you. looking back tonight to see where i came from (mistake #1) i am led to believe there was a demon in me for i didnt understand the things i was writing at the time, but it is clear to me that, well, the things i wrote sounded like a desperate plea from a tortured soul that was destined to roam without rest and ultimately end up in the fires of hell) anyway, that is beside the point. the cursed thing is gone now never to return, PRAISE GOD!

i deleted all my recording/producing software to show God i was serious. that i didnt want to sell my soul, for what shall it profit a man to gain the world and lose his soul right? but i still long for the musical part of it, the creating, the notes, the melodies, being artistic, etc. i cant do it anymore because i gave it up. i sit up most nights trying to fill a void. something deeper that i have no idea how to get from God. a longing for our spirits to be united as one. a love. a perfect harmony etc. something i am unable to attain to, He just leaves me wanting more of Him. so i listen to christian music (had to give up the "hard" stuff lol. watched some pretty creepy docs about the music industry and its quite frightening just how entrenched the hand of satan is. people you wouldnt even think.) or read theologians blogs, spurgeon, barth, learning (mostly forgetting what i learn though) searching for something to fill the void.

why isnt God filling this void for me? i gave up my identity for Him. To have an identity in Christ. everything i was, well it wasnt good, so i had to give it up. but now i dont know what i am other than longing for Him. longing to do something. to create. but nothing ever happens but a quick taste of what could be. i see a glimpse of something greater, followed by me standing on the other side of a dark glass, trying to peer through to the other side.

look, i dont understand regeneration, how it happens. when it happens, or how long it even takes. i just know i cant go back to what i was nor do i want to, but i want to move on to something better than before. better than now. i see no opportunity. no light on the horizon. i feel like there is a mark i have to live up to before things can get better but know i cant get there by my own will or doing. i am afflicted, imperfect, and anxious. i fall, i get back up, i fall again. nobody said being a Christian was hard. all the people look so happy and content and eager to shake your hand. it doesnt even matter though, if this is what it takes, if this is "taking up you cross" then so be it. Christ suffered greatly for me, surely i can deny myself and the whole world if need be. but nothing can fill this void.

no light switch is coming on and there is probably no anwser any of you can give me because thats probably not even what im looking for...if that makes any sense (why am i here then asking questions?) i guess i just want to know if other people go through stuff like this. giving up their identity and struggling to find their identity in Christ, because i think that is what the problem is. i keep asking, "what is your plan for me? who am i to you?" etc. no answer. i feel like i have some kind of calling, but no clue what it is. kindling a fire i suppose, who knows. if anybody has and idea of what im talking about, please HELP!

btw, do you know how HARD it is for a shy, introverted person like me to put all this stuff out there for everybody to read? music was the only way i could EVER put myself out there. you know, hiding behind an instrument, a song lyric, a CROSS maybe? please, go easy on the nut who wrote all this stuff (especially the part about instruments in church) ill probably just be like "why did i write all that?" after i hit submit. nothing ive never done before though i guess. hey, God bless you all, especially if you made it this far
 

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Is it possible, do you think, that the yearning for the creativity of music is so strong because it's actually a real gift?

It seems that you certainly needed to turn your back on that aspect of your life at the time because it clearly had a place in your life that wasn't healthy. I just wonder if it's something that God may have prompted you to give up so that you could grow to a place where it didn't have top billing in your life over Him- where the unhealthy aspects could be removed and which you could return to once you're in a place where you could enjoy it all without it being all, if you see what I mean.

Perhaps the lesson is to learn how to handle it in a different way, with God in charge. Maybe He wants you to use those musical gifts for Him? It may be in an 'obviously' spiritual way- it may not. Maybe He wants someone showing others that 'secular' music can be God honouring.

I'm not claiming to know. It's just a thought, really.

You're right, though, this Christianity stuff isn't always easy!!!!
There are times it feels that you've found all that was missing and you need nothing than to sit in God's presence. Sometimes it can feel that it sucks big time and you're going through so much stuff that you begin to wonder what- if any - of you will be left when you get through it!

It sounds so cliched- but those times are often the ones you look back on and think 'Ok, I'd never want to go through that again- but I'm so glad that I did then' What you gain far outweighs what you may lose, or change.

Sometimes it's good to get through it and realise you've proved to yourself that you really mean it when you say you love this Jesus guy- that when it's come down to just you and Him - you've still held on tight. When you realise your faith isn't just words and ideals- but something real and solid.
It's those times of seeming silence in my life that I look back on and realise that I had to learn that I was serious about being a follower of Jesus- that I cared enough to stick with Him even when I couldn't see or hear Him. It's then that you know you won't be broken by the things life throws at you. That you find He does have a purpose- but you have to be prepared and 'trained' for it.

Then, you find that He isn't actually taking your identity. He's just changing your character to be more like Jesus- not robbing you of your identity but molding it into the best version of 'you' there is.

Does that make any sense?
 
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By the way- that song- absolutely love it! I was playing that just this morning!!!!!

It's one of those songs that you think 'Actually, this could be really depressing- but it isn't- it's beautiful!'

wow, thats amazing. i had not even heard that song until today, crazy you was playing it. but yeah, you make a lot of sense. i know exactly what you mean about times of "going through things" you should see some of the responses ive made to others recently and they sound just like that. never thought of it like the way you put it, about it not being all and what have you.

but its still so much more than that. i cant really put it into words. i feel so...inadequate...at times. and its like the only thing i was good at, i cant really do anymore.
 
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Maybe this is a time of coming face to face with yourself?
I can relate to the feelings of being inadequate. Sometimes I think God has to strip away all those peripheral things- a bit like having to clean out a wound before you can put get to the infection, treat it and heal it. It can feel pretty desolate and bleak, though, while it's going on. It's so easy to sum it up in a sentence, isn't it? It doesn't even touch on how all consuming these feelings can be.

Put it this way- when we feel confident, sure of our abilities and so on- there's often the temptation to start sailing along in our own strength and relying less on God. It's when we feel inadequate that God can really get to work in us. And it's so easy to put our worth in our talents (or looks, or academic ability, or wealth, or popularity or one of many other things) - half the time we don't even realise we're doing it.

There are times I honestly believe that God says 'You need to know, for yourself, that you're putting Me before this thing. It's nothing to ask you to put aside something that doesn't cost you anything. That won't teach you anything or achieve anything. I want you to put aside this thing that means so much to you- and show Me- and yourself- that you're willing to pay the cost. I want all of you- not some of you.'

He may need to remove some things- but He may ask us to take it up again once we no longer place all our worth in it.

For what it's worth, overcoming feelings like that enough to post here and to be so honest doesn't sound like someone who's inadequate! Just remember that God loves you so much - He can see the entire, amazing kaleidoscope of all you are. Don't get caught up with a tiny particle of it and think that's the sum total of 'you'.
 
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i feel like a bipolar christian lol. is the first year the hardest, like learning a new language or taking on a new job or something? first few months i didnt even care, if things got hard i took at as a challenge and a chance to assert myself (if that is even possible???) in my new found faith. sure i wasnt perfect, i had A LOT of struggles, but i felt so close to God. now, i just feel like theres still a few things im hanging on to, fears, doubts, disobedience, the famous "I know Lord, BUT...."

I dont think i have the strength or ability to do anything good with myself. I believe that a change, mercy, grace, has to come from Jesus, but where do my thoughts and actions play into it? if left to me, its gonna get screwed up, plain and simple. How long does this regeneration stuff take, anyway? is it something that happens overnight (like i hear of so many testimonies which only cause me to doubt) or can it be a process?

ultimately, i believe, and rely solely on Christ crucified for my salvation and KNOW that HE has me on some path that maybe i just dont understand now...i think. sometimes i feel like im going forwards, other times backwards. i just read "Advice to Seekers" by Spurgeon and it left me doubtful. I just read about a woman who described dying to sin and said she watched as sin passed over her like she wasnt there and that was the moment she was changed forever...it made me doubtful. what is being saved, really? is it a process? does something finally "just happen" and you are changed forever? i mean, i was changed forever, but in the sense that ill never give up SEEKING Christ, not like ive "overcame" or found myself in a perfect relationship with Him, which is what i want but cant seem to attain. i feel like sin actually targets me sometime.

this stuff is crazy, you cant make this up. Christianity is nuts lol. oh well, its worth it because Jesus thought I was worth it.
 
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Maybe God wanted you to "fast" from music so you could "clean" yourself from what was, at the time, bad for you in it. But there are no regulations and restrictions about art in scripture. Except perhaps if you extrapolate from "thou shalt not have other gods than me", if music was your god or something. I have a similar problem with computer gaming and sometimes with scifi literature.

Other christians have said that if you give to God what is dearest to you, He will give it back to you if it was something worthy, but training you to make better use of it and making you more detached and able to live without addictions.

I have had this experience with a computer game I have, Victoria ... a very complex simulation. I played it and other games a lot then I had this pull in my conscience that I had to give it up. At that point I got out of whack and thought that maybe games are evil and satanic and that I needed to stay away from all gaming entirely. But then after some time Jesus came to me and He strengthened me and when I didn't know what to do He actually told me to play a game now and then. The thing was that computer games weren't evil, much like grapes and cigarettes and beers and cars and music isn't evil, but an addiction to these things can be a problem if you want to remain balanced and in harmony with God and with the people in your life.

I would recommend you talk with christian musicians you respect. You need to understand that your ability to make music is a gift that not everyone has, a gift that is precious. Just don't "need" it so desperately. We need God desperately, and each other, but not everything.

And don't confuse this with a strong desire to make art. We all have strong desires sometimes, for a cake, for a steak, for going to bed with a woman, for going to work and for whatever else. It's normal for a human to have these desires, they are part of what makes life worthwhile, I think. You long for God, a result of your long fasting from music. God is number one with you, the issue is settled.

Now go make some good music.
 
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