Getting Wasted

JesusWalks78 · Nov 8, 2006

A cousin of mine came home (the home of my parents, where I am staying while they extend my home) last night and was drinking on the porch with his friends, his senior exams were over and he was partying.

I woke up at 4am and went to start my routine, throughout the night I heard noise, fighting, vomiting, sex etc.....and I looked at the women that came with these boys and I felt pity for their fathers. The way they were behaving was just very animalistic.

anyway I got my cousin up at 4am with me (I am the elder, he must listen to me), and I made him do some gardening like weeding our plantation with a cane knife to help him sweat out all the alcohol, he vomitted all over the place, and was whinging and whining, but I made him finish his jobs (which is his daily job anyway) before my father woke for inspection.

I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

Steezie · Nov 8, 2006

It CAN be fun, as long as you dont get smashed to the point where you're blowing your guts out all over the place.

I dont see the problem with a little social lubricant allthough there is such a thing as too much. Good thing though is that if you drink too much, your body will generally tell you in the morning.

"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oh the night that Paddy Murphy died, is a night I'll never forget
Some of the boys got loaded drunk, and they ain't been sober yet;
As long as a bottle was passed around every man was feelin' gay
O'Leary came with the bagpipes, some music for to play[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]That's how they showed their respect for Paddy Murphy
That's how they showed their honour and their pride;
They said it was a sin and shame and they winked at one another
And every drink in the place was full the night Pat Murphy died

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As Mrs. Murphy sat in the corner pouring out her grief
Kelly and his gang came tearing down the street
They went into an empty room and a bottle of whiskey stole
They put the bottle with the corpse to keep that whiskey cold[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]About two o'clock in the morning after empty'ing the jug
Doyle rolls up the ice box lid to see poor Paddy's mug
We stopped the clock so Mrs. Murphy couldn't tell the time
And at a quarter after two we argued it was nine

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They stopped the hearse on George Street outside Sundance Saloon[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They all went in at half past eight and staggered out at noon
They went up to the graveyard, so holy and sublime
Found out when they got there, they'd left the corpse behind![/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Oh the night that Paddy Murphy died, is a night I'll never forget
Some of the boys got loaded drunk and they ain't been sober yet;
As long as a bottle was passed around every man was feelin' gay
O'Leary came with the bagpipes, some music for to play!"[/FONT]

Skaloop · Nov 8, 2006

JesusWalks78 said:
A cousin of mine came home (the home of my parents, where I am staying while they extend my home) last night and was drinking on the porch with his friends, his senior exams were over and he was partying.

I woke up at 4am and went to start my routine, throughout the night I heard noise, fighting, vomiting, sex etc.....and I looked at the women that came with these boys and I felt pity for their fathers. The way they were behaving was just very animalistic.

anyway I got my cousin up at 4am with me (I am the elder, he must listen to me), and I made him do some gardening like weeding our plantation with a cane knife to help him sweat out all the alcohol, he vomitted all over the place, and was whinging and whining, but I made him finish his jobs (which is his daily job anyway) before my father woke for inspection.

I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

Several reasons. It's fun (at the time; hangover, not so much). It is, as they say, a social lubricant. It is one way of letting off steam, dealing with stress, and self-medicating mental issues. It provides pleasurable stimulation.

I used to get wasted a lot. No real reason behind it, and it was quite a common thing for me. More recently, however, I have had some problems with alcohol that were interfering with my personal wellbeing, so I no longer get wasted. I drink responsibly, in moderation, but I don't overdo it anymore.

I did figure out that stress was a big contributor to my escalating drinking problem, so I have taken steps to take care of that. But it was not always due to stress, and in most cases wasn't much of a problem.

In the case of your cousin, a celebratory night of drinking is nothing to be too concerned about, provided it is a rare occurence.

Ryal Kane · Nov 8, 2006

One definition of 'alcoholic' is someone with the inability to function normally without alcohol.

If you consider how my society would function tomorrow if you took away the alcohol, I think it fits the bill.
A pretty (pardon the pun) sobering way of looking at it.

People use it as an escape and as an excuse for doing stupid things. Things they would be terribly ashamed of about doing thy can laugh off because they were drunk. Presonally I kind it quite disgusting.

Recently I had a cousin who was out binge drinking with his friends. He got sepearated and then went missing. They founf him four days later in the harbour. No foul play. He just got so drunk that he fell into the water and was too wasted to get out. 19. Design student.

I've never been drunk in my life. I never want to be.

DaRkWoLf · Nov 8, 2006

JesusWalks78 said:
anyway I got my cousin up at 4am with me (I am the elder, he must listen to me), and I made him do some gardening like weeding our plantation with a cane knife to help him sweat out all the alcohol, he vomitted all over the place, and was whinging and whining, but I made him finish his jobs (which is his daily job anyway) before my father woke for inspection.

Good on you for making him take care of his responsibilities.

JesusWalks78 said:
I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

Its use as a social lubricant depends on the consumer though it seems that this is the common reason; Im not affected too much that way. I've found it gets me into a state which lends itself to meditation and increases my sense of empathy. A state of inebriation can be enjoyable in the right context and when experienced in moderation.

Last night I drank a tad, I had a terrible day and needed to cool off and introspect. Friday-Saturday I was partying rather hard. I frequently have a shot of Sambuca or something similar durring a nice bath.

It must be noted that there isnt a need for people to get intoxicated, its a want, and if one thinks its a need they need to stop drinking for a period of time and learn some moderation. Alcohol is a very addictive substance, moreso than many drugs which people classify as hard; it should be respected as such. Getting so smashed one passes out isnt that great of an idea either.

selfinflikted · Nov 8, 2006

Drinking = ok in moderation. People get smashed because, while drinking, it's tough to decide on how much is TOO much, until after it's too late. It's that simple I think.

sparklecat · Nov 8, 2006

I haven't gotten seriously drunk in about 2 1/2 years. When I did do so, it was due to personal issues. I'll still drink on occasion, and even get drunk to a lesser degree, usually because I find it relaxes me and puts me in a good mood, and sometimes I need an easy way to do that.

JesusWalks78 · Nov 8, 2006

I guess I cant understand it because I dont do it...i do drink Kava, it is a form of narcotic I believe (traditional drink) you get "drunk" but not like alcohol, youjust get really sleepy, and no one ever fights and no one ever gets on the table and dances or acts the fool....it is a different kind of thing. I guess you would have to have had it to experience it...and this I do maybe once a year at the clan gathering....so I understand the social lubricant aspect.

But why would you want tolay yourself up with a hangover (people get very religious during a hangover....I have often heard my brother calling out "Jesus just take me now, I am ready")....it seems rather uncomfortable.

sparklecat · Nov 8, 2006

I don't get hangovers.

akaibara · Nov 8, 2006

selfinflikted said:
Drinking = ok in moderation. People get smashed because, while drinking, it's tough to decide on how much is TOO much, until after it's too late. It's that simple I think.

If you want to drink in moderation, then don't supply yourself with enough alcohol to get smashed. Am I being naive or are people really that stupid? >_<

(I don't mean you personally, selfinflikted)

selfinflikted · Nov 8, 2006

akaibara said:
If you want to drink in moderation, then don't supply yourself with enough alcohol to get smashed. Am I being naive or are people really that stupid? >_<

(I don't mean you personally, selfinflikted)

Heh no offense taken.

Skaloop · Nov 8, 2006

akaibara said:
If you want to drink in moderation, then don't supply yourself with enough alcohol to get smashed. Am I being naive or are people really that stupid? >_<

(I don't mean you personally, selfinflikted)

When one's drunk, then yeah, they can be that stupid. Personally, I didn't always realize how drunk I was, in which case having another doesn't seem like too much. Then by the time it is too much, those darn reduced inhibitions make it less likely that I would stop.

You know how sometimes you'll get engrossed by something you're doing, and the next thing you know it's hours later? Or you'll sit down for a bit of a snack and without even realizing it you eat a whole bag of chips? Well, for me (and, I expect, many other drinkers), the same sort of thing can happen with booze; you get inebriated without even really realizing it.

selfinflikted · Nov 8, 2006

Skaloop said:
When one's drunk, then yeah, they can be that stupid. Personally, I didn't always realize how drunk I was, in which case having another doesn't seem like too much. Then by the time it is too much, those darn reduced inhibitions make it less likely that I would stop.

You know how sometimes you'll get engrossed by something you're doing, and the next thing you know it's hours later? Or you'll sit down for a bit of a snack and without even realizing it you eat a whole bag of chips? Well, for me (and, I expect, many other drinkers), the same sort of thing can happen with booze; you get inebriated without even really realizing it.

That was exactly my point, thanks Skaloop

quatona · Nov 8, 2006

JesusWalks78 said:
A cousin of mine came home (the home of my parents, where I am staying while they extend my home) last night and was drinking on the porch with his friends, his senior exams were over and he was partying.

I woke up at 4am and went to start my routine, throughout the night I heard noise, fighting, vomiting, sex etc.....and I looked at the women that came with these boys and I felt pity for their fathers. The way they were behaving was just very animalistic.

anyway I got my cousin up at 4am with me (I am the elder, he must listen to me), and I made him do some gardening like weeding our plantation with a cane knife to help him sweat out all the alcohol, he vomitted all over the place, and was whinging and whining, but I made him finish his jobs (which is his daily job anyway) before my father woke for inspection.

I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

I have quit drinking alcohol completely two months ago. Before that I never drank to a stage that deserved the term "wasted" (with the exception of two incidents in my early use - lack of experience), but sometimes I drank heavily. Fortunately I never vomit no matter how much I drink, according to people I don´t get nasty but even nicer, calmer and wittier (as if this would be possible ), and the hangovers are tolerable.
Add to that that there´s no one who doesn´t begrudge me such pleasures and therefore will push me around the next day.

Usually I drank for the taste (I love the taste of whisky and grappa) but didn´t care much for the effect of getting drunk. I didn´t mind it either, though.

I´m tending towards the notion that the more constrained and restricted you are by moral conditioning, the more likely you are going to use every opportunity to escape these restrictions.
There is a deeply Catholic region here in Germany, but when they have their Carnival days they are said to lose all inhibitions and put every average hedonist to shame.

For tense people drinking seems to offer an option to relax at least for a short time.

From my observation collective drinking often has a ritual aspect.

One problem with alcohol: Maybe those guys didn´t even plan to get wasted, but just have some drinks. But the more you have drunk the less impact outer and inner restrictions and constraints have on you and you will easily overdo.

Caylin · Nov 8, 2006

I have never had alcohol in my life. Alcoholism and mental disorders run in my family, and I don't feel as if I should be taking any chances. Also, the meds I'm on are hard on my liver anyways.

rambot · Nov 8, 2006

I have always told myself that I would never do somethign drunk that I wouldn't do sober.
I have, so far, managed to keep that streak going.
I'm a pretty simple and unoffensive guy, I don't drink that often (though I do, on occasion, get drunk).

I think that MY boundaries are permanent regardless of the kind of intoxicant.

lucky that.

Why do I "get drunk"? Well, I don't know. I never really plan to get drunk. Beer tastes good. I feel more relaxed, I laugh and I "become more clever" . In the end though, I suppose I haven't had any sort of event that makes me think "I really, REALLY shouldn't drink".

ps///quant.....GRAPPA? you LIKE the taste of grappa?
whoa.

quatona · Nov 8, 2006

rambot said:
ps///quant.....GRAPPA? you LIKE the taste of grappa?
whoa.

Err, yes.
Does that make me a freak or something?

kopilo · Nov 8, 2006

Umm that was very dangerous, people sweat out alcohol in very small preportions and making someone who is drunk do exercise may actually kill them.

These findings suggest that alcohol intoxication has a depressant effect on LV function at rest that stimulates autonomic nervous blockade. The increased sympathetic nervous activity during exercise appears to be a toxic rather than a compensatory effect of alcohol.

source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3825913&dopt=Abstract

EDIT: I live a straight edge lifestyle, so I don't even consume alcohol (or drugs, or have promiscious sex) but I guess drunks like the feeling of not being in control.

Note: If someone is vomiting after consuming alcohol normally it means they have reached some level of alcohol poisoning, why else would their body be trying to empty everything quick smart?

Bananafish · Nov 8, 2006

JesusWalks78 said:
A cousin of mine came home (the home of my parents, where I am staying while they extend my home) last night and was drinking on the porch with his friends, his senior exams were over and he was partying.

I woke up at 4am and went to start my routine, throughout the night I heard noise, fighting, vomiting, sex etc.....and I looked at the women that came with these boys and I felt pity for their fathers. The way they were behaving was just very animalistic.

anyway I got my cousin up at 4am with me (I am the elder, he must listen to me), and I made him do some gardening like weeding our plantation with a cane knife to help him sweat out all the alcohol, he vomitted all over the place, and was whinging and whining, but I made him finish his jobs (which is his daily job anyway) before my father woke for inspection.

I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

That was a pretty mean thing to do to your cousin. No fun allowed where you live?

I usually have a beer or two when I'm hanging out with friends, sometimes more if we're going out to the bar for the night. I drink because I like to.

Verv · Nov 8, 2006

JesusWalks78 said:
A cousin of mine came home (the home of my parents, where I am staying while they extend my home) last night and was drinking on the porch with his friends, his senior exams were over and he was partying.

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I just cant understand why there is a need for people to get wasted (drunk)...so why do you get wasted? What good is it?

It is really a shame what immature people do when they drink, and it is the major reason why alcoholism is a dangerous slope. Some people shouldn't have alcohol at all, e.g. your cousin, because he has shown that alcohol is an excuse for him to misbehave grossly.

For others, alcohol can loosen somebody up and just be a good time, a good social activity that makes things smoother and a bit more entertaining. Some people can even get rather intoxicated and still do nothing that is remarkably bad or regrettable...

But alcoholism and getting wasted is a sin because even the sanest of people can become prone to acting akin to your cousin.

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