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Getting Tired of it All (A Rambling Rant)

Xen_Antares

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I am sick and tired of this Obama=Hitler nonsense. Maybe its just me but Barack Obama is the strangest looking Aryan that I have ever in my life seen. Call it a hunch, but I seem to think Hitler would not believe Obama to be part of the Master Race, which is such an important part of Nazi-doctrine that its envocation to describe the current administration shows more ignorance than intended.

Lets look at the facts, when the Nazi's were rising to power in the 1920s and early 1930's, stalwarts or "brown shirts" were present to disrupt political rallies of opponents using force and the threat of force to make their rivals fear meetings. They screamed obscenities and spread vicious lies and rumors, accusing their opponents of supporting communism or were controlled by the Jews (in modern terms its now called socialism/fascism or being in league with the terrorists). Now who in reality sounds more like the brown shirts/fascists of yesteryear?

This great nations Founding Fathers would not approve of these right wing organizations such as TEA Party or the conservative militias springing up all over the place making threats against the lawfully elected government. In 1794 President George Washington sent the United States Army into western Pennsylvania to crush the Whiskey Rebellion, like modern conservatives the rebels used more than less the same rhetoric and liked to harken themselves to the patriots that started the Boston Tea Party. Washington and other Founding Fathers rejected these claims with Washington himself saying something along the lines of "During the Revolution we had no representation in the government, now you have that representation and must use the channels provided to you."

Increasing the size of government is in direct contrast to what our Founding Fathers wanted when they wrote the Constitution? News Flash it is not the 1780s anymore, in fact the Constitution was written because the Founding Fathers believed the government was too weak under the Articles of Confederation, they were also brilliant men who knew that world would change and the country must change along with it in order to survive. Many great Republican lions were willing to acknowledge this, those great men include Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, and Theodore Roosevelt all three did much to increase the size of government and the role it plays in the day to day lives of the nations citizens. It can be said if Theodore Roosevelt didn't interfere with tyrannical businesses during his presidency we could have easily had a Bolshevik revolution.

If conservatives truely want to return to the mind set of our founding fathers who framed the Constitution then they support the abolishing of the US military. Our Founding Fathers feared a standing army, the US regular Army was always very small until after World War II when the Soviet threat necessitated a large army.

I am also perplexed by this mentality that a business operates better with the absence of government. When we shifted from an agricultural society to a industrial society in the late 19th century, government was absent in business. Pollution was rampant, and corporations were brutal to its employees. Ever hear of scrip? What scrip basically was, was corporate slavery. It wasn't until the time of Theodore Roosevelt/William H. Taft and FDR that things began to improve for the common folk because they put the governments hand into things and forced businesses to comply with certain laws that improved the life and living standards of Americans.

There are no death panels in the Canadian/British or any other Government run Health Care System, look at the Veterans Health Administration, there are no death panels there, and Veterans get really good health care. Yes the VA has its problems but so does the private industry. The modern American Health Insurance industry is every bit as corrupt and vile as the corporations that TR slapped around with his big stick one hundred years ago, for that matter all insurance is corrupt? Ever have an insurance company drop your auto insurance because you were hit while sitting at a red light by an uninsured driver? My dad did, never missed a payment, always on time, impeccibly clean driving record until he got hit when sitting at a red light. Insurance company told him he was a liability and dropped him, my dad had to go insurance shopping and was expected to pay ridiculously high premiums because it was in his file he was a liability.

I am sick of the politics of fear mongering, and hate mongering. The GOP spouts this because they have nothing, no plans to help the people or the economy, or pull the nation up by its boot straps, however they do not want Obama or the Democrats to succeed because they will be proven wrong. They will be forced to sever ties with their corporate allies who funds their campaigns.

Rant over for now, I know I will make some people mad but I don't care anymore. I'm sick of the Right Wing's politics of fear, and I am also sick of Obama letting this crap go on. He needs to take a firm stand, instead hes like one of those cartoons "You wont cross this line" *GOP crosses line, Obama takes a step back and draws another line in the sand* "Well you wont cross this one" *GOP crosses line, Obama takes a step back and draws another line in the sand* "This time you wont cross the line"

I know Obama is more capable than this, he ran one of the most brilliant campaigns in the nations history last year, he needs to realize who his friends are and who they aren't. Dont sacracice your liberal allies so you can show the other side you will and hope they will work with you. They won't. Take a stand, and liberals can take the country back.
 

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Good post. I wonder about many of these same things. On the flip side however, many on the left with me can be just as hateful however I see more all out hate from the right, especially the "Christian" right, than I ever have from the left.

Why is it that the left vows to work for change when those in power don't agree with them and the right demands the imprisonment and in some cases death of those who don't agree with them?
 
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Agree with your basic complaint though I do, it's not as though Bush Jr and Clinton didn't get the same treatment. (In fact, two of our most vilified presidents were Washington and Lincoln.)
We might do well to follow the old military adage, "Respect the rank."
 
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Good post. I wonder about many of these same things. On the flip side however, many on the left with me can be just as hateful however I see more all out hate from the right, especially the "Christian" right, than I ever have from the left.

I appreciate the need to balance these observations. I notice lefties always try to humble themselves and see the bad in the left too.

However...... you have a mouse size level of hate on the left... trying to say to the elephant size hate on the right that it understands the elephant trying to lose weight cause the mouse is having a fat day.

In other words it doesn't compare.
 
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Well said... I can't claim to be very into politics, but I do agree with you here
 
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No, Obama is not Hitler. But neither are concerned citizens who disagree with his policies or disapprove of an expansive role for government all right-wing wackos. Both sides need to tone down the rhetoric.

Personally, I am one who believes in a very small government, limited to the powers granted it in the Constitution. But I don't think all who believe otherwise are fascists or socialists, I just think they're mistaken.
 
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Yeah but some of em definitely are wackos.
Some of both left and right are wackos, some of those on Obama's team, and some opposed to him. It helps neither side's cause to try to paint all of their opposition as crazies, fanatics, communists or fascists.
 
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Some of both left and right are wackos, some of those on Obama's team, and some opposed to him. It helps neither side's cause to try to paint all of their opposition as crazies, fanatics, communists or fascists.


Yeah but let's talk about the right wing wackos. Those people are freaky deaky!
 
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Yeah but let's talk about the right wing wackos. Those people are freaky deaky!


Not all the right wingers are wackjobs though. Some are very intellegent and respectful folk. In my personal experience, the conservatives tend to be a lot more grounded and respectful when meeting their constituents versus the liberals (my experience is only in Washington State). But I agree a little more with the Democratic ideal.
 
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Well in all respects to the conservatives meeting their constituents they don't have a bunch of uneducated rednecks asking why they are supporting Obama trying to reconstitute the Third Reich in America.

The man is just trying to create a health care system that helps the impoverished, how that translates into the Third Reich is beyond me.
 
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Yeah but let's talk about the right wing wackos. Those people are freaky deaky!
Yeah, some of them are. And I'm ok with talking about them, so long as we don't try to say everybody on the right is like that. And so long as you don't mind when I give equal time to talking about the freaky deakys on the left.
 
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Yeah, some of them are. And I'm ok with talking about them, so long as we don't try to say everybody on the right is like that. And so long as you don't mind when I give equal time to talking about the freaky deakys on the left.


I think time spent discussing should be done on the level of destruction and pain they cause to the world.

I don't believe it's equal numbers on each side.
 
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I think time spent discussing should be done on the level of destruction and pain they cause to the world.

I don't believe it's equal numbers on each side.
You're right, they're not equal. The lefty loonies are in power, and are currently the major threat.
 
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You're right, they're not equal. The lefty loonies are in power, and are currently the major threat.


Nah most of the lefty loonies are often without any power in real society.

Check out tribe.net.

People who believe they are fairies (Ones with wings), who channel non coporeal beings, etc etc.

Lovely peaceful people...... but you wouldn't give them a license to drive a school bus.

 
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Right. Those people don't bother me at all. But people like Van Jones do.
 
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Eh, I got enough complaining in regarding the right-wing wacks during the Bush years - now its time to switch gears for the coming left-wing apocalypse.

Now is the time prosecute the Right Wingers from the Bush Administration for their crimes against humanity.
 
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