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if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).
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if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. (Matthew 19:16-19).What does one need to get to Heaven ....?
Not according to the Bible. According to people.According to the Bible, Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is not a physical place or a future event, but rather a spiritual reality that is present and active within individuals. This concept is encapsulated in Luke 17:21, where Jesus says, “The kingdom of God is within you” (NKJV).
What ? Non sequitur - not claimed.If the kingdom is really in the heart of the Pharisees
Try again, if you like.Not according to the Bible.
For protestants it is about faith and God's Faithfulness to carry the believer to the end. (for the most part)I’m currently a Catholic who has been toying with the ideaof returning to a NonDenom church nearby. What I want to know is this…..Catholics believe in Purgatory, ND don’t. Protestants say Catholics can’t get to Heaven without works, Catholics say the opposite. What does one need to get to Heaven as a Protestant and as a Catholic?
Purgatory exists, but even the RCC doesn't teach it. Above all don't tell the protestants that!
If I may add, for a Catholic, the Holy Eucharist is "the source and summit of the Christian life." CC 1324The main salvation distinction for sacraments is, in catholic theology, someone is born again when they are baptized. In protestant theology, one is born again when the begin to believe in Jesus.
However, if you do the math of the actual teachings, catholic theology says someone who dies before they can be baptized can be saved by the obedience of faith .. so in general the difference seems like a distinction. However, sacraments are necessary for Catholic salvation, but not necessary for Protestant salvation.
Hope that helps.
I don't mind doing that at all.What ? Non sequitur - not claimed.
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Try again, if you like.
Not according to the Bible. According to people.Aaron112 said:According to the Bible, Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is not a physical place or a future event, but rather a spiritual reality that is present and active within individuals. This concept is encapsulated in Luke 17:21, where Jesus says, “The kingdom of God is within you” (NKJV).[
Stick to Catholicism...I’m currently a Catholic who has been toying with the ideaof returning to a NonDenom church nearby. What I want to know is this…..Catholics believe in Purgatory, ND don’t. Protestants say Catholics can’t get to Heaven without works, Catholics say the opposite. What does one need to get to Heaven as a Protestant and as a Catholic?
So what does it mean when a Christian obeys Luke 22:19-20, but a Catholic priest isn't involved?III. The Final Purification, or Purgatory
1030 All who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified, are indeed assured of their eternal salvation; but after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven.
If I may add, for a Catholic, the Holy Eucharist is "the source and summit of the Christian life." CC 1324
The three leaders of the Protestant Reformation all had different views on the Holy Eucharist, and from there have sprung thousands of denominations. Catholics believe that only a priest (that means a man who has received the sacrament of Holy Orders) can validly consecrate the Eucharist.
Over the years many have taught various ways to receive everlasting life. No wonder the world is full of so many denominations. All of these different doctrines, seemingly coming from the bible, tend only to confuse people. Most people don't know what to believe and simply choose not to attend any church sometimes.You don't "get into heaven". Heaven, gets into you.
.... <interjection> sigh of relief! good ! (for them) ..... let them seek God directly, "in spirit and in truth as Jesus told the woman at the well .... (a foreigner at that !)Most people don't know what to believe and simply choose not to attend any church sometimes.
What happens to believers when they die? Do you believe they immediately go to heaven or are “asleep” until judgment day?According to the Bible, Jesus taught that the Kingdom of God is not a physical place or a future event, but rather a spiritual reality that is present and active within individuals. This concept is encapsulated in Luke 17:21, where Jesus says, “The kingdom of God is within you” (NKJV).
Trying ignoring everything you ever were taught, and , if God Permits, see what Scripture Says . It is not at all popular.What happens to believers when they die? Do you believe they immediately go to heaven or are “asleep” until judgment day?
Can you elaborate? Otherwise, the post I quoted I completely agree with. It’s was very well written.Trying ignoring everything you ever were taught, and see what Scripture Says . It is not at all popular.
About bringing the kingdom of heaven in the present reality, present and future.I do not see a connection - which post that you quoted ?
Remember that the early Catholics were there before one word of the New Testament was written. There were some very holy people, martyrs, who received eternal salvation and never read one word of the New Testament. Jesus did not send his disciples out to hand out Bibles, in fact Jesus never mentioned anything about compiling various new texts into our Bible. And remember the very first list of the final books of the Bible was not compiled until the latter half of the fourth century. Of course, the Bible is a wonderful addition to the Church which contains a lot of instruction as to how to live as God intends us to live. I fully recommend prayerful study of the Bible.The road to eternal salvation starts with knowledge of the Holy Scriptures. God doesn't want us to memorize two or three verses, but instead he left the entire bible so we can learn how to get salvation. If we learn it, believe it and obey it (the bible), salvation will be our reward.
According to the Bible, Israel the Hebrews always had the word of God, not Catholics. Paul says in Romans 3: 1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. At this point no one have eternal Salvation, but Jesus. Jesus is the only one who died and was raise from the dead. Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15: 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.Remember that the early Catholics were there before one word of the New Testament was written. There were some very holy people, martyrs, who received eternal salvation and never read one word of the New Testament. Jesus did not send his disciples out to hand out Bibles, in fact Jesus never mentioned anything about compiling various new texts into our Bible. And remember the very first list of the final books of the Bible was not compiled until the latter half of the fourth century. Of course, the Bible is a wonderful addition to the Church which contains a lot of instruction as to how to live as God intends us to live. I fully recommend prayerful study of the Bible.
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