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There is no requirement to prove God. The seed is either inherent or not and a person cannot be convinced beyond what their mind will allow. It is good to share with believers and this forum is called Christian but there is some indication it could be run by Atheists.
Well I would be happy to look at your sources to the extent that I can. I assume you are looking at this from both sides as well and not getting the views of science from listening to creationists. I can generally be fairly objective when I need be. I also assume this is about understanding what the evidence means rather than just using the evidence to promote some forgone conclusion?
You can always choose to frequent the "Christian only" portions of the board, where non believers are not allowed. That way, you are protected from having to deal with people who disagree with you.
Doing this helps to refine and strengthen belief with out being physically attacked. It also shows me where I would have been in my belief if these things had been thought about at all, that is.
About 7 years ago a 30 year old physics graduate attacked me and got me in a choke hold while sitting at a table. It was broken up and he said he tried and wanted to kill me. It can get serious for some.
My own sons are problematic.
To me science is now explaining what the scriptures are actually relating in regards to where God is and how close and how He actively makes everything seen appear at every instant.
I had that revelation at 26 years old and was shown a mind picture of it all. It would have been difficult if not impossible not to believe the experience as true.
In your opinion then, God decides to inherently plant the seed in some people, but not others?
Why would a God who cares for all his creation do that?
Why do 2/3 of the worlds population not agree with Christianity? Did God choose to doom all these people, by not inherently planting the seed in them?
Who are the people who know these things? What did David Attenborough say or was it someone else drawing conclusions from what he said. Science is continually making new discoveries and sometimes they refute the old.
Okay, but what does that mean to you if that is true?Own conclusions are drawn from what is seen and personally I couldn't believe how far he went, but read later that many scientists were saying such a creature wouldn't fly.
Google it, YouTube it, that's what i do these days.
I was just reading about the argument of whether pterosaurs are speculated as having been too heavy to fly. I don't think that is all that new though as I remember them from long ago as being described as gliding cliff dwellers. In any case, what significance do you see in that?There are some who are mischievous, and know what they are doing but feel big enough not to care.
It is dishonest.
I was just reading about the argument of whether pterosaurs are speculated as having been too heavy to fly. I don't think that is all that new though as I remember them from long ago as being described as gliding cliff dwellers. In any case, what significance do you see in that?
I started this thread based on the awe inspiring high resolution scan of our closest neighboring galaxy M31 which is only 1.5 million light years away. Within that galaxy individual stars become visible by the billions. But then if you know astronomy there are another 100 billion or so other galaxies scattered and clustered throughout the universe. Just looking at this one galaxy similar to our own spiral galaxy we live in it becomes breathtaking. So the question was how could such a tiny little god as depicted in Genesis and throughout the old testament have created things of such incredible proportion. Now personally I have come to understand the Genesis story as a story that was needed for goat herders to ponder over. But as someone who has long followed astronomy such a story is not suitable for me.The thread is "genesis-creation-or-this" isn't that indirectly doing?
What false idea?It was a week ago that the program was on TV. With animations etc a false idea is being given.
I started this thread based on the awe inspiring high resolution scan of our closest neighboring galaxy M31 which is only 1.5 million light years away. Within that galaxy individual stars become visible by the billions. But then if you know astronomy there are another 100 billion or so other galaxies scattered and clustered throughout the universe. Just looking at this one galaxy similar to our own spiral galaxy we live in it becomes breathtaking. So the question was how could such a tiny little god as depicted in Genesis and throughout the old testament have created things of such incredible proportion. Now personally I have come to understand the Genesis story as a story that was needed for goat herders to ponder over. But as someone who has long followed astronomy such a story is not suitable for me.
I do not understand God. I am fixated on Jesus.The whole story of the Bible is that the eternal God is not a tiny little God. I must admit I would probably never read such a Book if my mind had not been opened up to Him in a powerful way.
God fills the whole universe. God makes everything seen appear the way it does at every instant. God is an observer just beyond and a little deeper than the mind that is thought from. God is in the effect of gravity and the forces in the atom and also the life in the cell. The Eternal God covers Himself with light as with a garment. The electromagnetic effect in all of creation is what the Eternal God covers Himself with as a garment. This is significant in the preparation of a future technology.
You are making another assumption. Many through out the bible had things revealed to them about health, what to eat and a potential to be immortal and how it was lost. It also reveals the consequences of only following the natural senses and an individual driven along by self belief only, acting on what comes to mind.
It also explains the ability people have to get into the subconscious and influence the feelings of others.
It is easy to say the people of the past were not sophisticated thinkers and probably this was true for many of them if the stories are believed.
What impresses me having seen as much as can be, the size of space, the smallest particles go in the other direction more or less equally. Only a small percentage of everything seen is regarded as solid the rest is free space.
It's suitable for me. This is my God;I started this thread based on the awe inspiring high resolution scan of our closest neighboring galaxy M31 which is only 1.5 million light years away. Within that galaxy individual stars become visible by the billions. But then if you know astronomy there are another 100 billion or so other galaxies scattered and clustered throughout the universe. Just looking at this one galaxy similar to our own spiral galaxy we live in it becomes breathtaking. So the question was how could such a tiny little god as depicted in Genesis and throughout the old testament have created things of such incredible proportion. Now personally I have come to understand the Genesis story as a story that was needed for goat herders to ponder over. But as someone who has long followed astronomy such a story is not suitable for me.
I was not aware Arcturus the name of a well known star, Pliedes the name of an open star cluster or Orion a most prominent constellation were in the bible. Of what significance were these things in the bible?It's suitable for me. This is my God;
(Gen 1:1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
(Job 9:8) Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.
(Job 9:9) Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.
(Job 9:10) Which doeth great things past finding out; yea, and wonders without number.
(Job 38:4) Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
(Job 38:5) Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
(Job 38:6) Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
(Job 38:31) Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?
(Job 38:32) Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?
(Job 38:33) Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
(Isa 44:6) Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
(Rom 1:20) For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
The law of cause and effect states that for everything that happens there is a cause. The universe came into existence, therefore the universe had a cause. Science cannot identify that cause. Genesis does. Jesus, who was there to witness the events of Genesis, referenced them as factual. Why would a Christian deny the word of the Lord to embrace a scientific explanation which can't explain the origination of anything? Moreover, why would Christians look to the study of the natural world for answers to a supernatural origination?The point to be made here is why should Christians today need to adhere to a simple creation story as written in Genesis and argue with science over how the universe was created.
Other than the God you call "tiny" creating them? Lots... read the questions God puts to Job. You will see why Job was humbled. He began recognizing how big God was... which I think is your topicI was not aware Arcturus the name of a well known star, Pliedes the name of an open star cluster or Orion a most prominent constellation were in the bible. Of what significance were these things in the bible?
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