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No, I'm simply asking you to clarify whether you are saying that Child Abuse is only wrong to those who think it wrong, and that it is not wrong to those who do not think it so.
This is hardly a trick question is it. Is pinning down a child and having sex with that child only wrong to those who think it is wrong, and so not wrong to those who do not think it so?
Well now that you gave me a specific example, I can tell you my opinion of it.
No, I'm just saying that your responses seem to be nonsensical riddles to me.
At the abstract level, it isn't hard to explain. What I'm trying to get at, though, is how people determine what's "right" and what's "wrong"? And also, why is there "wrong" to begin with?Some people do what's right in a given situation. Some people do what's wrong. Most people do both in their lives. This is not hard to explain.
How is this decision conveyed? Obviously there's no vote on it. Does the government represent our decision of what's evil?Evil exists where people decide there is evil. It's actually that simple.
What I'm trying to get at, though, is how people determine what's "right" and what's "wrong"?
And also, why is there "wrong" to begin with?
I know there some other threads about evil, but I didn't see one specifically looking for a non-Christian answer to the question. Christians have an easy answer to the question of why there is evil. I'd like to hear non-Christian answers to why you think there is evil in the world (deftly avoiding how a non-Christian defines what "evil" is). Thanks.
That isn't what I asked you.
I asked you whether "pinning down a child and having sex with that child is only wrong to those who think it is wrong, and so not wrong to those who do not think it so?"
Could you answer that specific question please...
Sorry, your question is whether it's wrong to people who don't think it's wrong?
You answered your own question...
If they don't think it's wrong, then I'd guess it's not wrong to them lol.
The answer is simple! If you ask Ana he says it is wrong. If you ask the rapist, you might get a different answer. Right and wrong does not have an actual existence, they only exist as judgment calls people make about human actions. Because these judgment calls vary from person to person; we enact laws agreed upon by society in order to get consistency on acceptable behavior.I'm asking your view on the nature of right and wrong.
Your wriggling on the matter is there for all to see.
The answer is simple! If you ask Ana he says it is wrong. If you ask the rapist, you might get a different answer. Right and wrong does not have an actual existence, they only exist as judgment calls people make about human actions. Because these judgment calls vary from person to person; we enact laws agreed upon by society in order to get consistency on acceptable behavior.
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Sorry, but you are misunderstanding the whole discussion.
I'm not asking whether some consider it wrong or not. I'm asking whether Ana is absolutely wrong rather than wrong for some and okay for others (which appears to be Ana's claim).
There's no such thing as absolutely wrong. There are no moral facts. There are only moral opinions, and they vary from person to person, like opinions about beauty.
So in your view, some people think child rape is wrong and some think it is not wrong, and neither of them are more accurate or authoritative than the other but objectively speaking its just a conflict of opinion?
At this point I'll cast my vote for "this is ridiculous".Correct, there is no authoritative or objective answer to the question. This is not quite the same as saying it is just or merely a difference of opinion. Moral opinions and intuitions are generally very strongly held and sincere, particularly on an issue like child rape.
So in your view, some people think child rape is wrong and some think it is not wrong, and neither of them are more accurate or authoritative than the other but objectively speaking its just a conflict of opinion?
Correct, there is no authoritative or objective answer to the question. This is not quite the same as saying it is just or merely a difference of opinion. Moral opinions and intuitions are generally very strongly held and sincere, particularly on an issue like child rape.
""this is ridiculous"."
"Wow"
Ridicule and incredulity are not arguments against my position.
Perhaps you could demonstrate how slavery or genocide is authoritatively, objectively wrong.
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