Are there any Free Will Baptists here? My family used to be Free Will Baptist and I know that there teachings differ somewhat from usual Baptists. So I was just wondering.
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arunma said:Stupid question, but I just want to make sure. Free Will Baptists are Baptists who aren't Calvinist, right?
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD . "As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts."
Lockheed said:I'm the opposite of a Free Will Baptist...
But I was married in a Free Will Baptist church by a Korean Baptist (Wesleyan) Minister who used the church in the afternoons. I consider myself a 'Reformed Baptist' however and find the 'free will' doctrines antithetical to the Gospel.
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Free Will Is Simply Ridiculous
It has already been proved beyond all controversy that free will is nonsense. Freedom cannot belong to will any more than ponderability can belong to electricity. They are altogether different things. Free agency we may believe in, but free will is simply ridiculous. The will is well known by all to be directed by the understanding, to be moved by motives, to be guided by other parts of the soul, and to be a secondary thing.
Philosophy and religion both discard at once the very thought of free will; and I will go as far as Martin Luther, in that strong assertion of his, where he says, `If any man doth ascribe of salvation, even the very least, to the free will of man, he knoweth nothing of grace, and he hath not learnt Jesus Christ aright.' It may seem a harsh sentiment; but he who in his soul believes that man does of his own free will turn to God, cannot have been taught of God, for that is one of the first principles taught us when God begins with us, that we have neither will nor power, but that he gives both; that he is `Alpha and Omega' in the salvation of men.
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BBAS 64 said:Good Day, Lockhead
I am a Baptist who holds to the historical "Doctrines of Grace" as the true nature of the Gospel as preached by Paul, Knox, Augustine, Bunyan, and Spurgeon.
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doctrines of grace" are historical and in fact not Biblical.
BT said:oh and btw Paul was not a calvinist.
arunma said:I think Calvin was wrong about a couple of things, and right about a lot of things. That's why I'm a Calvinist.
I have my own opinion that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and Him crucified unless we preach what is nowadays called Calvinism. It is a nickname to call it Calvinism. Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else. I do not believe we can preach the gospel . . . unless we preach the sovereignty of God in His dispensation of grace; not unless we exalt the electing, unchangeable, eternal, immutable conquering love of Jehovah; nor do I think we can preach the gospel unless we base it on the special, particular redemption of His elect and chosen people which Christ wrought out upon the cross; nor can I comprehend a gospel which lets saints fall away after they are called, and allows the children of God to be burned in the fires of damnation after having once believed in Jesus. Such a gospel I abhor."
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