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Hi,

How would you deal with someone who uses foul or crude language in front of a teenager in a workout/gym class setting? Should I go and talk to her directly about trying to mind her language or go talk to the teenager and see what he thinks about it? or go to the trainer and talk to her about it?

Also, how would you word it?

I was quite shocked about the language used and obviously I don't want to make 'enemies' but I feel like it needs to be discussed. We are a bunch of young adult ladies (am the only Christian) in the class and he is the only teenager there (16 years old I think).
I don't think this women realized that she was saying something inappropriate as she was just talking across the room to another women. Maybe she thought it was okay to say it because there are more women and only one teenager but I think that if she is not told that it was inappropriate, she might find it normal to keep talking about things like that other times...

Also talked to my flatmate about it (who is an unbeliever as well) and she didn't think it much of a big deal...Minds seem to be so dull and am finding it a bit hard to deal with. Anyone experience that too?
 
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i know how how you feel im the only Christian n my family and my mum wears contantly and takes gods name in vain
 
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Language has degenerated to the point that children swear without compunction. Why not? Their parents set the standard. Since parents seem to have abdicated responsibility for discipline, who will instruct the kids not to swear? And the if parents complain, what do they do to enforce the rules? In a word, nothing. I've heard teenagers, using language that used to make sailors blush, standing next to the police. I doubt that you will get much of a hearing from the other "ladies".
 
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My vocabulary can get a bit R-rated. I try not to judge others when it comes to this.

Even so, it always fascinates me what Christians choose to be offended by. They can watch TV shows where men are intimate with each other while calling that "marriage". But gosh darn golly gee, make sure you stick with G-rated words because that's offensive or something!
 
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Be prepared for pushback if you rebuke the person.

Yes that can be true, but i believe if it is the appopiate situation and eh, with certain words you can tell the other person that you are not confortable with them speaking like that in front of you, in an ideal world people should try to understand each other.
 
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Almost guaranteed there Will be pushback because there always is. Just reminding the OP for their consideration,that's all.
 
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I’m not a fan of profanity or coarseness. I have little patience for vulgarity and avoid people like that. I would seek another class/venue with a demographic to my liking unless the Lord told me to stay.

~Bella
 
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We have discussed this issue extensively in our adult Sunday school class. We can't expect a secular culture to conform to our standards. You are in the minority, the only Christian in the room. Swearing, to us, is rude. To the world, it's a normal way of expression. Sadly, this is where we are. I wish I had a better answer.
 
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I sympathise. It's a symptom of societal breakdown, mental and moral depravity. Here I'm surrounded by disrespectful rude young people (and parents), neighbours yelling and screaming all night. It's a degradation in standards. And it's actually illegal in Australia, under Summary Offences Act 1988. e.g. Offensive language in a public place is a crime. Police don't care, they're the same, if not worse. Does your area have this?

So one day I told my neighbours off, politely whilst sitting down at my place (about another matter). I felt bad for their daughter being raised in a home with offensive and abusive language directed at her, parents and older brothers. To them however it's normal, inoffensive. Every second word is %!@bleep#!#. Lesson learnt: not my business, plus powerless to influence, out of my jurisdiction. I can merely complain to police.

At work however when I'm in seniority I'll tell off my juniors. That goes better, but not perfectly.
  • 1st case was a new employee added to my team. He called me "Oi!", then by my nickname, and swore when speaking. I told him in a kind way to never speak to me this way. He asked "Why?" (with puppy eyes). I explained: Who do you think you're speaking to? Would you talk to your school teacher this way? Your parents? It's disrespectful, inappropriate, unprofessional language etc, plus it's illegal under the summary offences act, and that he's disrespecting not only me but himself, his dignity, degrading his identity. He felt bad and explained how his dad (police officer) talks to him all his life (constant cursing), family is a mess, suicide, trauma, abuse, etc. FWIW he changed and is a really cheerful kid but part of it was for show, to appease me (intimidated by me), and he talked behind my back to my equals about my rules. Not happy. In hindsight I should have fired him on day 1, or refused to work with him.
  • 2nd case was a similar, I told another young fellow off politely saying the same as above but more along the lines of "Did you know that that kind of language is..." He also felt bad, started rambling and swearing more (about a topic, not offensive language directed at me), felt bad and now stupid for doing what I'd just told him not to. The boss fired him not long after (for other issues - "character issues").
  • 3rd case my senior (pm/gm) locked 2 guys in a glass RFID FOB access only store room and verbally abused them, yelling "Who the !@#!@ did ____? !@#!@, !@#!@. Went on for ~10mins while me and 2 others stood outside waiting for a meeting to start. I mentioned it to his equal. No action was taken, nothing changed. Actually got a bit worse (more frequent verbal abuse, malicious etc). I quit. My colleague after 2-3 yrs of this now has mental health issues, traumatised, and is suing for workplace bullying. All colleagues have turned their backs him.
Outside of work, in public:

On semi-full public bus with elderly, retirees, grannies, and a gang of teens got in the back few rows swearing loudly, making sexual jokes about each other's sisters. It annoyed me so much.. ... ... What ticked me off though was when rubbish got hurled around the bus, rolling back and forth under people's seats, the corridor. A nuisance and trip hazard. I waited 10-15mins hoping they'd self-regulate and shut up. Nope, got worse. I really hoped the older people would tell them off. Nope, they sat quietly. I thought surely the bus driver will stop the bus, tell them off and kick them off. Nope. So I stood up, objectively, pointed at the big noisy one and yelled at him to "Pick up his sh#$" (poor choice of words I know), have some respect, mentioning "trip hazard", to have respect for the bus, blah blah. He did. Seconds later his mates laughed and mocked him (made matters worse --I should have been fair and yelled at the group). A few mins later a few of them started heckling me, following me off the bus, called me names, trying to intimidate me. I ignored them. When getting off I asked the bus driver (limp 60 year old -- typical dad) "WHY did you say nothing and do nothing? You should have kicked those brats off the bus!". He shrugged and looked down. Sigh...

Society is deaf, blind, and dumb. Scripture, morality, decency, isn't even on the radar.

Eph 5:4 - Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 4:29 - Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
Col 3:8-10 - But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.

This world is upside down.

I suggest keeping to yourself unless you're the authority. For me I won't hire rotten people. If I see bad behaviour I'd warn them and then it would be immediate dismissal. And with that, I have to mind my own tongue also. Be above reproach.

Mt 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
 
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A non-believer doesn't have the same motivation a Christian has (or ought to have, anyway) for maintaining gracious, gentle, holy language. For many non-believers, swearing is almost reflexive, a sort of ugly, forceful punctuation in what they're saying. They don't give it much - if any - thought at all and would find your objections to their offensive speech...peculiar.

Many gyms where I live have language rules for common areas, prohibiting cursing, shouting, and even, in some cases, excessive talking where people are trying to focus on their workouts. Maybe there's this sort of a gym in your area. If not, it seems to me you'll just have to put up with the darkness that often issues out of the mouths of those living in darkness.
 
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Be the one to not cuss around others. Let our light shine for the world while the world gets darker and darker. It is the prophesy and is inevitable. My son said while at University of Alabama the kids use profanity as if it is pure normal language. I've seen it myself on Reddit and other internet venues. I blame hollywood and the internet for making things much worse. However, while we are still in the world, until we all are called home, we are to shine light and be the salt to the world. I have noticed that others often stop cussing when I refuse to go along with them, so there is some truth to Christians still showing light to the world. Just don't give up no matter how crude the rest of the world gets. Keep that light shining until we are called home, and then the Lord will deal with the remainder.
 
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