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You will note that this site probably brings together MORE Christian denominations and churches than any other. What other site has Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, and Messianics, and all their sub-denominations, together and existing side-by-side? The Society of Friends is part of Protestantism and is accepted. We are not here to kick people out of the "Christian Club". I have even made rules so that Liberal Christians are accepted.Annabel Lee said:If you keep kicking people out of the Chrisitan Club, there will soon no one left.
Whattttttt??Oblio said:Notice that I said affirmed. The Orthodox Catholic Church was an instrument of the Holy Spirit Who worked through the Council of Nicea to affirm those timeless truths set down in the Creed.
It has been the be all and end all for 1500 years of Christianity. If you cannot confess the Creed, you are not a Christian, in the eyes of the Church, and (thankfully) this message board.
Yes, this is a general board to unite all Christians. But not everyone who calls themselves "Christian" is a Christian. We need a working definition for the purposes of our Christians-only forums. Rather than making the definition based on a single denomination, we base it on a creed that was formed by the Niceaen council to battle heresy at the beginnings of Christianity, before denominations ever came about, before there was what is now known as the Catholic church, the Protestant movement etc. etc. This definition, though it is not perfect, does indeed summarize the doctrines of being a Christian, and applies to Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, and Messianic believers. It also will exclude all heretical branches of Christianity.Shekinahs said:At least I thought this was a general board to unite all Christians.
We are mainly trying to exclude sect and cult members from Christian-only areas. This should not affect the majority of Christian members.seebs said:I would bet that there's not a person at this site who does not hold at least one belief considered heretical by at least one of the major denominations. Excluding heretics is a tricky business at the best of times.
Malaka said:Hi there!
Thanks for retracting on the Society of Friends (Quakers). They are not trinitarian.... not even close.
Personally, I am glad to see the Apostle's Creed removed as a criteria for Christianity on this forum.
When did salvation become a test of comprehension of arcane theology?
Oblio said:What arcane Theology is affirmed in the Nicean Creed?
Salvation is determined by the Lord, we cannot determine who has obtained it, that is NOT the purpose of the Creed. The purpose is to safeguard those truths which are non-negotiable, that which define the beliefs of all Christians, that which unites us in our faith and worship of the Holy Trinity.
This is what the bible says:emerald Dragon said:This is what The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has been trying to say. Christ is one in pupose with God, not one in physical body. They are literally father and son, begotten meaning "to be born." We do not calim that God, Christ, and the Holy Ghost are the same physicall person, but Three physical people, uited in common goals, powers, puposes, and possibly blood.
seebs said:I would guess that a solid majority of posters here cannot correctly articulate the doctrine of the Trinity without running afoul of at least one heresy for which people have been burned in the past.
That was the purpose of the Apostles' Creed, too.
The point is, Christians may easily be confused about such matters of theology, and still be followers of Christ.
But the contention is that it would be wrong to affirm something (the Creed's take on the Trinity), when one doesn't understand the Trinity enought to know whether or not the Creed is correct.Oblio said:No one has said if you don't understand the Trinity, or the intricacies of the council of Chalcedon, you are not a Christian.
Oblio said:I was interested in what part of the Creed was arcane, I see nothing there that fits this description. Is there a line that confuses you ?
And heresies arose. The N/C Creed was set forth to affirm the beliefs of all who were part of the Apostolic Catholic Church of Christ. Those that did not were heretics.[/b]
True enough.
The Creed still professes the truth and is set forth to guide those that follow Christ. No one has said if you don't understand the Trinity, or the intricacies of the council of Chalcedon, you are not a Christian.
Do you understand all of the Bible and its theological constructs ? Do you believe in the Bible ?
Erwin said:I have had to remove the Apostle's Creed from Forum Rule 6.
This was our previous rule 6:
Hi there!
What about the Community of Christ church members on this forum. They embrace the Nicene Creed yet they hold the book of mormon and D & C as Scripture alongside The Holy Bible.
Are they to be considered as Christians or cults members?
~malaka~
They hold the book of Mormon as Scripture? Are they a subset of the LDS church? In any case, no, they cannot post in the Christian-only forums. The book of Mormon is not part of Scripture. Again, I am not going to debate the reasons - that belongs to the Unorthodox Theological Doctrines forum.Malaka said:Hi there!
What about the Community of Christ church members on this forum. They embrace the Nicene Creed yet they hold the book of mormon and D & C as Scripture alongside The Holy Bible.
Are they to be considered as Christians or cults members?
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