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A system that makes so little distinction that a whale is a fish
isn't much of a system.
Everything that isn't a fish must be a plant or a bug.
Terrif.
And how does that help you? In fact it appears to refute your claim. I love it how all of your QV's refute your own claims. Just another way that you have of admitting that you are wrong ahead of time. It saves us so much work.QV please: Post 966
I have been using cladistics. Which classifies based upon descent. @Estrid can explain the justification of her classification system herself.As somebody who normally considers the two of you to be rational, a question for each since I have lost track, what is the classification system you are using and a little why if you please?
Sorry, but you are looking at the classification system improperly. What cladistics does as a classification system is to tell us when a group's oldest common ancestor arrived on the scene. As I said earlier for those that cannot grasp this we have other terms that are not so uncomfortable for them to use.
Then why can you catch them by fishing? Matthew 4:19
you should try reading the Bible.
I guess I won't seek the background of this
exchange, but it does illustrate what I was saying
about how we as land dwellers tend to lump
all the aquatics into one category, " fish".
People of education and refinement know
clams and sharks are not fish
I've never seen anyone try to claim that everything that lives in water is a "fish", so I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from.
I suspect that a lot of this disagreement is probably a language issue and how terms like "fish" get used relative to formal classification systems versus informal usage.
Except sharks are fish, both from the perspective of taxonomy and cladistics, and in informal English language usage of the word "fish".
If you're operating with a different definition of the word "fish", it's non-standard usage.
It refutes Estrid's claim.In fact it appears to refute your claim.
What's the Bible have to do with it?Sorry. The Bible is not an accurate book for... well, anything.
Did the atheist say Hitler was a true Christian, or just a Christian?What's the Bible have to do with it?
Estrid said the only ones she's heard talking about true Christians are Christians.
I showed her where an atheist mentioned Hitler being a Christian.
Does the atheist know the difference?Did the atheist say Hitler was a true Christian, or just a Christian?
Yep. So, which epithet did he use - true Christian or Christian?Does the atheist know the difference?
He said "Christian," as opposed to "true Christian;" and I'm asking if he knows the difference.Yep. So, which epithet did he use - true Christian or Christian?
Thank you. You said an atheist had mentioned "true Christian", but you now accept the quote you provided does not support that assertion.He said "Christian," as opposed to "true Christian;" and I'm asking if he knows the difference.
If not, perhaps he was conflating the two terms?
You said, 'yep,' but I assume that was so you could advance your point.
Nope.We can move on.
The one who demonstrated you to be wrong, right? Truth has no importance, your pride is at stake.Nope.
You spoke for him ... perhaps he's willing to back one of us up?
(And I can guess which one.)
The order is there. You refuse to see it. I could give endless examples of what is not a "fish" using cladistics. Shellfish are not "fish" using the standards that I use. You do not appear to have a system of classification.Its me looking at it wrong when it's you figures that whales and sharks are both fish.
A scheme to bring order instead delivers that garbage.
Quite often yes. At least in the U.S most atheists were Christian at one point in time. And quite often it was a better understanding of the Bible that led to their atheism.Does the atheist know the difference?
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