So basically, even if you were shown absolutely irrefutable proof you'd ignore it...umm...isnt...isnt that what a crazy person does?
If science could create an NFL quarterback in the laboratory from basic elements...what would you call that?I'm curious, Steezie. What is "absolute irrefutable proof" in the eyes of a scientist?
Is that what "scientists" demand of Christians, but then when Christians demand if of them, they say, "Proof is for alcohol and mathematics"?
That kind of "absolute irrefutable proof"?
If science could create an NFL quarterback in the laboratory from basic elements...what would you call that?
This is why I don't nitpick when I am asked for 'proof.' This is also why I don't ask for proof, but for evidence. Stop painting with such a broad brush AV.I'm curious, Steezie. What is "absolute irrefutable proof" in the eyes of a scientist?
Is that what "scientists" demand of Christians, but then when Christians demand if of them, they say, "Proof is for alcohol and mathematics"?
That kind of "absolute irrefutable proof"?
I don't know/care --- did they?
Explain the unbroken history of civilizations, going back to the Neolithic Era. Let's start with the Mayas. Or perhaps Jericho, or the Paleo-Americans right after the last ice age. How about ancient Hunan?
I'm curious, Steezie. What is "absolute irrefutable proof" in the eyes of a scientist?
Is that what "scientists" demand of Christians, but then when Christians demand if of them, they say, "Proof is for alcohol and mathematics"?
That kind of "absolute irrefutable proof"?
This is why I don't nitpick when I am asked for 'proof.' This is also why I don't ask for proof, but for evidence. Stop painting with such a broad brush AV.
Right what?Right.
Ok. I get it. It doesn't matter whether they did or not, because there isn't any evidence, no matter how convinving, that would persuade you that anything happened other than as required by your interpretation of the Bible... right?
You know perfectly well that the people hereabouts who are picky about the meaning of words like "proof" and "evidence" and "theory" and "hypothesis" are the same people who are careful how they use those words themselves.
Occasional mistakes (which I would expect to be retracted when challenged) aside, I don't think you'll find somebody demanding rigor in use of such terms from others who doesn't also demand it of themselves.
No, as long as it doesn't contradict your interpretation of the Bible.For the 5,000[sup]th[/sup] time --- as long as it doesn't contradict the Bible, I don't have a problem with it.
For the 5,000[sup]th[/sup] time --- as long as it doesn't contradict the Bible, I don't have a problem with it.
Originally Posted by BrainHertz
You know perfectly well that the people hereabouts who are picky about the meaning of words like "proof" and "evidence" and "theory" and "hypothesis" are the same people who are careful how they use those words themselves.
Occasional mistakes (which I would expect to be retracted when challenged) aside, I don't think you'll find somebody demanding rigor in use of such terms from others who doesn't also demand it of themselves.
Why don't we let Steezie answer, okay?
The phrase, "irrefutable absolute proof" does not sound like he's making a mistake to me. It sounds like he wants what I would call, "irrefutable absolute proof."
No, as long as it doesn't contradict your interpretation of the Bible.
Hundreds of millions of Christians and Christian scholars and people who devote their entire lives to understanding the Bible disagree with you.
Not only do you persist in the face of science, but in the face of your own peers, peers who have read more than you ever will.
That's the inverse of my statement, which was that you won't accept any evidence, no matter how convincing, that does contradict your particular interpretation of the Bible.
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