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Linux98 said:#1) I don't know what a geocentrist is.
#2) I don't know what a backsliding heliocentrist is either.
So, at the present time, I cannot provide clarification on your statement.
Linux98 said:
To be clear, I am not saying you aren't a Christian. But I am making the point that if one believes in free markets yet calls himself a communist, he is not a communist; he is a confused capitalist.
I am a Christian because I recognize the truth of what the Bible has to say about sin and my relationship with God--and I have taken the necessary steps to accept the redemption and salvation God has offered and to build a relationship with God. This is probably the wrong forum to go into greater detail, but I can discuss it with you either privately [PM me] or publicly in a forum that would be more appropriate for such discussion.JookieRed said:To filly, rafael_aa, randomguy and others...
Why are you Christians?
If you read my prior posts that were attempting to answer filly's questions[posts #s 16-18 on this thread], you will note that I do not dispute it--but neither do I dispute the Bible. I know of no reason a Christian cannot accept both the evidence of modern science and also the biblical account of creation.More and more I'm seeing people who believe in God but realize that much of modern science is hard to dispute.
You haven't met Him, have you? If you had, there would be no need to ask. But since you haven't, it will probably be difficult for you to understand the indescribable peace I have had in my soul since I have come to know God. But again, this is probably the wrong forum to attempt to discuss it. PM me to discuss it privately, or we can continue the discussion in a different forum.You believe there is a god. Fine. Why the Christian god?
Originally because that was how I was raised.JookieRed said:To filly, rafael_aa, randomguy and others...
Why are you Christians?
You believe there is a god. Fine. Why the Christian god?
I at least provisionally believe that all parts of the Bible contain truth.If you are going to pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to believe, why believe any of it?
Modern Deism I reject because in my experience God speaks and is not remote.Explore other schools of thought. Why not Deism, Pantheism, whateverism?
I alternate between feeling anger and profound sadness in response to that.But there are lots of folks that would say you aren't "true Christians" then.
Linux98 said:#1) I don't know what a geocentrist is.
#2) I don't know what a backsliding heliocentrist is either.
So, at the present time, I cannot provide clarification on your statement.
For rough 3000 years every believer who heard or read these verses believed that they meant that the Sun stopped moving. For the last 400 years or so most believers have assumed they meant that the Earth stopped rotating.Joshua 10:12 said:On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel:
"O sun, stand still over Gibeon,So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.
O moon, over the Valley of Aijalon."
Talking snakes with legs, people not having children until they were 130 years old, God worried that a physical tower might reach heaven...Linux98 said:However, Genesis is certainly not allegorical. The literary style of Genesis is a "Hebrew narrative" and you should read it as such.
MuAndNu said:This is the site I really wanted: http://www.geocentricity.com/
You haven't met Him, have you? If you had, there would be no need to ask. But since you haven't, it will probably be difficult for you to understand the indescribable peace I have had in my soul since I have come to know God. But again, this is probably the wrong forum to attempt to discuss it. PM me to discuss it privately, or we can continue the discussion in a different forum.
consideringlily said:Jesus spoke about this many times. He told Pharisees who thought being religious put them in a different category from other people that they should follow the intent of the law not the letter of the law.
So you aren't*? Then how do you justify not reading Joshua 10 literally?Linux98 said:But that is why I think understanding literary context is very important to proper biblical interpretation. In addition, Robert is simply misguided to call me a "geocentrist" -
Gravity is just a theory.Frazzledmom said:Evolution is just a theory. The big bang is just a theory. I believe the bible is literal. Sure, some things seem strange to us, but lots of things seem strange to me. Like believing apes changed into people. I'm not even close to being a scientist. In fact, I greatly dislike science, but fossils have been found with food in their mouths, proving that they froze instantly. I've heard that it's possible, since fossils didn't take years to freeze, that the world isn't as old as most people believe. Don't you think this could be a possibility?
I cannot speak for "people of every religion" and do not know whether any of them have found the peace and comfort I have found. Nor can I speak for athiests such as you. But I can contrast my current life with my former life before I became a Christian.....Self Improvement said:Sinai said:You haven't met Him, have you? If you had, there would be no need to ask. But since you haven't, it will probably be difficult for you to understand the indescribable peace I have had in my soul since I have come to know God. But again, this is probably the wrong forum to attempt to discuss it. PM me to discuss it privately, or we can continue the discussion in a different forum.
And naturally people of every religion spout that same line, why is that?
Frazzledmom said:Evolution is just a theory. The big bang is just a theory. I believe the bible is literal. Sure, some things seem strange to us, but lots of things seem strange to me. Like believing apes changed into people. I'm not even close to being a scientist. In fact, I greatly dislike science, but fossils have been found with food in their mouths, proving that they froze instantly. I've heard that it's possible, since fossils didn't take years to freeze, that the world isn't as old as most people believe. Don't you think this could be a possibility?
Linux98 said:Like I said, she is obviously in the light-gray area. But she is certainly free to openly express her beliefs about the person of Jesus Christ and prove me wrong. A Christian doesn't need to be shy about that if they are really a Christian, right? See, this isn't about religion, it is about who one believes Jesus is and why one believes Jesus did the things He did.
Matthew 10:32-33"If anyone acknowledges me publicly here on earth, I will openly acknowledge that person before my Father in heaven. But if anyone denies me here on earth, I will deny that person before my Father in heaven."
.Sinai said:I cannot speak for "people of every religion" and do not know whether any of them have found the peace and comfort I have found. Nor can I speak for athiests such as you. But I can contrast my current life with my former life before I became a Christian.....
Why are you using a computer if you greatly dislike science?Frazzledmom said:Evolution is just a theory. The big bang is just a theory. I believe the bible is literal. Sure, some things seem strange to us, but lots of things seem strange to me. Like believing apes changed into people. I'm not even close to being a scientist. In fact, I greatly dislike science, but fossils have been found with food in their mouths, proving that they froze instantly. I've heard that it's possible, since fossils didn't take years to freeze, that the world isn't as old as most people believe. Don't you think this could be a possibility?
Robert the Pilegrim said:So you aren't*? Then how do you justify not reading Joshua 10 literally?
*In truth I never thought you were. (Can you name that literary style?)
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