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Then can you say a Creator did not bring this physical realm into existence?
And as I already stated, there is nothing that requires us to posit a creator for the beginning of the universe or material world. If we don't whether or how it started, nothing requires us to find an answer. Not knowing and realizing you do not know is fine. Not knowing and admitting that is better than making stuff up.
Avoid facing the past reality (Point 6 an eternal physical realm or physical realm was by a Creator) is not an answer facing a major weakness in Naturalism.
If you call "belief' everything, then certainly. Though people don't call "belief" anything that can be confirmed by independent parties. In your terminology I have "belief" that you exist. In mine, you exists. If you are "just belief", then I don't need to pay any attention to your words. So, can you give me a proof for your existence?There appears to be some Naturalist s that do not want to show their foundation is thorough belief. Maybe re-read the first 3 paragraphs of the first post?
Avoid facing the past reality (Point 6 an eternal physical realm or physical realm was by a Creator) is not an answer facing a major weakness in Naturalism.
Recognizing a limitation to what we can know is not a weakness.
Point 4
Demanding proof and evidence (from others) but major gaps in evidence exists.
Point 5
No proof or sound answer to the most important question about the natural (universe) - was there a Creator?
Point 4
Demanding proof and evidence (from others) but major gaps in evidence exists.
Point 5
No proof or sound answer to the most important question about the natural (universe) - was there a Creator?
This point seems to be trying to claim that working from the available evidence is the same thing as working from no evidence at all. It isn't.
You seem peeved that there is no evidence at all for a creator.
There appears to be some Naturalist s that do not want to show their foundation is thorough belief. Maybe re-read the first 3 paragraphs of the first post?
Quite the opposite. Who you say does not exist you have no evidence for why.
Your position is based on faith.
Quite the opposite. Who you say does not exist you have no evidence for why. Your position is based on faith.
Many appear to be avoiding Points 5 and 6. No answers?
Many appear to be avoiding Points 5 and 6. No answers?
Then can you say a Creator did not bring this physical realm into existence?
One more time...
Is not believing in Odin a belief or not?
You present mythology but cannot answer if the physical realm is eternal. Are Naturalist on this forum shallow in Naturalism? Not able to see the bare foundation they stand on? But you demand an answer about mythology?
No I can't. All I can do is gather the available knowledge and see where it points to. At this time the data points to only one logical conclusion - that the universe exists because of some natural phenomena. There is no proof of any alternative theory.
So the question then becomes, why should anyone hold any other conclusion but the natural one?
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