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What's your favorite title for Mary?
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Stella maris. Star of the sea.What's your favorite title for Mary?
Biblically Mary don't have a title ... she was the earthly mother of Jesus ... the means by which God chose His son to become partly human.What's your favorite title for Mary?
Biblically Mary don't have a title ... she was the earthly mother of Jesus ... the means by which God chose His son to become partly human.
Sorry ... thanks for the reminder.Please read the SOP for the Traditional Theology subforum. This is not the place to disclaim the validity of Marian titles, nor to state idiosyncratic theology like "God chose his son to become partly human."
ChristotokosWhat's your favorite title for Mary?
I love that one as well.our most glorious Lady Theotokos
Why that title?Christotokos
It’s a little less controversial to Protestants.Why that title?
I don’t deny or reject Theotokos, I just think that Christotokos is a less controversial title. I understand the reasoning behind the Theostokos, many Protestants don’t. I also don’t support Nestorianism.Friendly reminder that no less a Protestant figure than Martin Luther himself zealously affirmed that St. Mary is mother of God (i.e., Theotokos). He uses the title "Mother of God" many, many times in his 1521 treatise on the Magnificat, for instance.
I just think that Christotokos is a less controversial title.
I’m not seeing the term anathematized in any of the 14 canons or any of the epistles.You’re mistaken. The Council of Ephesus, the third ecumenical synod, specifically anathematized the use of this title, which makes it very controversial insofar as it is entirely unacceptable to Lutherans and Anglicans, as well as Eastern and Oriental Orthodox and Roman Catholics. The only traditional church which historically made some use of this title, although I believe they avoid using it in an ecumenical context due to its Nestorian connotations, is the Assyrian Church of the East.
And it should also be stressed that Christotokos was literally the title Nestorius used violence persecution to enforce over the historic title of Theotokos, which is what led to him being anathematized at Ephesus, even by his former ally Patriarch John I of Antioch. So one could argue that the use of Christotokos is Nestorianism in its most literal sense in that this was specifically what Nestorius taught, with the separation of the humanity and the divinity of Christ later being developed from Theodore of Mopsuestia’s writings as a means of justifying it and providing a theological basis contra-St. Cyril of Alexandria and the traditional incarnational model he emphasized.
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