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Exorcist Diary #342: Can Demons Pervert the Conclave?

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Satan will certainly marshal his strongest forces and attempt to pervert the conclave. It is a pivotal moment for the Church and he will try to sow conflict, spiritual pride, disobedience to God, distrust, power-mongering, anger, wilfullness, and more. Should we be worried?

Certainly the Cardinal electors will be discussing potential candidates and I know that some Cardinals will be actively advocating for their personal choice. There are very human elements to the process. But skeptics posit that the Church is all politics and full of power-grabbing dynamics. Will the Holy Spirit have anything to say?

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I have watched movies which depict exorcism. I do believe in demonic possession but always questioned exorcism.
It’s a real thing. Many outside the Church call upon Catholic priests for exorcisms when all else has failed.
 
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I have watched movies which depict exorcism. I do believe in demonic possession but always questioned exorcism.
There's a copy of an interview by "Die Welt" with Fr. Pedro Barrajon shown here. It's small print and difficult to read so you might need to expand it. It's 20 years old, but still instructive.

A talk with Catholic exorcist Pedro Barrajon about demons, the nature of evil and exorcism today. By Paul Badde​




When I was a new Christian I was having some spiritual issues. I went to see a couple of people who had deliverance ministries. In my case nothing happened, but two of them said that they had experienced "patients' floating around the ceiling. One of them said "They (demons) don't want to go!"

Demons don't like Hell either, which is where they go when they're driven out. That's why they screamed when Christ drove them out or begged to be sent into the herd of swine at Gerasene. It didn't do them much good - the pigs all ran down to the lake and drowned, which meant the demons had to leave and go to Hell anyway.

Exorcism is real, but as Fr. Barrajon wrote, he thought only about 10 percent of those who were referred to him for possible exorcism actually needed it.
 
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It’s a real thing. Many outside the Church call upon Catholic priests for exorcisms when all else has failed.
Indeed. You don’t hear about many Protestants doing exorcisms.
 
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I have watched movies which depict exorcism. I do believe in demonic possession but always questioned exorcism.
Yup. There are some on YouTube. I cannot post because of language.
 
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I’ve heard a lot of horror stories about exorcisms gone wrong.
Yup. Especially if someone isn’t spiritually prepared.
 
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Indeed. You don’t hear about many Protestants doing exorcisms.
They do but they don't advertise it. Also most if not all of the "Exorcism" movies seem to feature Catholic priests and nobody else which only tells part of the story.

As Fr. Barrajon said Mary is very important in exorcisms, and that Mary is never insulted during exorcisms, even if everybody else is.


Other Catholic exorcists have said the same thing. Personally I think God has made it very clear to Satan that the Mother of His Son is off limits!

Protestants don't avail themselves of her assistance so they rely on prayer and Scripture.
 
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Adding to my post above, in "Interview with an Exorcist" Fr. Jose Fortea stated the following -

 
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There is also an item here by Fr. Gabriele Amorth, possibly the best known of Vatican exorcists, which has more to say on Mary's role in exorcisms.


 
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Way off topic but since the quote above mentioned Mary's role in crushing the head of the serpent, I just thought I'd give the Catholic perspective on the Antichrist, the beast and the dragon (or serpent). Again I'm quoting from Gabriele Amorth's book "Interview with an Exorcist".

That's why the cry goes out -
Revelation 13-4 - And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
The beast is an undefeatable military and political power with the Antichrist at its head viz. "Who is able to make war with them?"
 
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Ora pro nobis!
 
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