Evolutionists Moving the Goalposts Again

joey444 · Aug 30, 2006

jamie4418 said:
Why is it that even one single planet out there is not teeming with life like earth? Evolution seems to suppose that life is easily created.

Why is it that god put us on only one planet?
We don't know that there isn't another planet, we just started with Mars.
Evolution "seems" to suppose thing it doesn't when you don't understand it.

JohnR7 · Aug 30, 2006

jamie4418 said:
Why is it that even one single planet out there is not teeming with life like earth?

I have been told that when God restores creation all of the planets will have life on them. They are desolate now because of the fall of mankind.

TheBear · Aug 30, 2006

JohnR7 said:
I have been told....

You have "been told" a lot. You are a grown man, with your own, fully developed ability to question and scrutinize that which you have "been told".

Use it.

TheBellman · Aug 30, 2006

JohnR7 said:
I have been told that when God restores creation all of the planets will have life on them. They are desolate now because of the fall of mankind.

The idea that all planets would have life on them if not for The Fall is one of the more laughable notions I've ever heard.

Nightson · Aug 30, 2006

JohnR7 said:
I have been told that when God restores creation all of the planets will have life on them. They are desolate now because of the fall of mankind.

Yeesh, not only did the fall mess up humanity and all the animals, it wiped the universe of life? Kinda a lot of importance to attach to eating a piece of fruit don't you think?

TheBellman · Aug 31, 2006

Nightson said:
Yeesh, not only did the fall mess up humanity and all the animals, it wiped the universe of life? Kinda a lot of importance to attach to eating a piece of fruit don't you think?

I'm wondering what the life forms on Jupiter looked like. And those on Mercury, now that I think of it. And Neptune. And Venus.

PanSapiens · Aug 31, 2006

supersport said:
You know the theory of evolution is on the brink of utter collapse when an uneducated redneck hick from Texas like me can figure it out in just few months...

Well the fact is random mutations have never had anything to with evolution.

The above is from the first post to this thread.

It obviously comes from someone who never read "The Origin of Species" by Darwin. Maybe they don't allow it in your small Texas town.

The theory of evolution PREDATES the genetic understanding of how it operates.

Any scientist can tell you that we knew about evolution long before we could explain it. In truth, we are still trying to work out many of the details. That doesn't make it false. It is still the only viable explanation of the diversity of species we currently find.

I don't know about self-proclaimed Texas rednecks, but I read quite a few science journals and books. Thus, I stay abreast of what "scientists say." And the claim that this sort of thing is some sort of secret is just a lie.

I love how creationists like to give off the impression that scientists really know evolution is wrong, but don't want to admit it. HA! That's so silly it's cute. It's like a little puppy that keeps falling down because it can't walk yet. Or a little boy who can't think yet.

Really, dude. Where do you come up with this stuff? You write good fiction.

DARWIN

Opcode42 · Aug 31, 2006

JohnR7 said:
I have been told that when God restores creation all of the planets will have life on them. They are desolate now because of the fall of mankind.

The arrogance of this belief is astounding. Now not only are we so important that our actions could wreck an entire planet, we also wrecked an entire universe, and destroyed all life.

Seriously John, humanity is not the center of the universe.

TheBear · Aug 31, 2006

PanSapiens said:
DARWIN

Wow! You bow to Darwin? For most of us, that's a little over the top.

Anyway, welcome to the forums!

AirPo · Aug 31, 2006

TheBear said:
Wow! You bow to Darwin? For most of us, that's a little over the top.

Anyway, welcome to the forums!

Yes, welcome. But with all due respect don't bow to Darwin, lest some creationist use it as evidence that evolution is a religion.

PanSapiens · Aug 31, 2006

Wow, like umm the Darwin bow is like... a joke!

But if that's too offensive, I've come up with a few other options:

= FALSE

or...

=

Gracchus · Aug 31, 2006

AirPo said:
But with all due respect don't bow to Darwin, lest some creationist use it as evidence that evolution is a religion.

Creationists use EVIDENCE?!

MrGoodBytes · Sep 1, 2006

TheBellman said:
I'm wondering what the life forms on Jupiter looked like. And those on Mercury, now that I think of it. And Neptune. And Venus.

I wonder if the life forms on Neptun made "Uranus" puns.

jamie4418 · Oct 7, 2006

Okay, I have some more questions about evolution. I might have asked them before, so please bear with me.

Evolutionists believe that we came from apes, correct?

Nightson · Oct 7, 2006

jamie4418 said:
Okay, I have some more questions about evolution. I might have asked them before, so please bear with me.

Evolutionists believe that we came from apes, correct?

Physically we are apes as well, just taxonomic classification. Make sure you don't think of ape as it's used in the common vernacular. We share a common ancestor with other modern apes. The common ancestor between us and chimpanzees (our closest relative) dates to about 6 million years ago IIRC.

Chalnoth · Oct 7, 2006

jamie4418 said:
Okay, I have some more questions about evolution. I might have asked them before, so please bear with me.

Evolutionists believe that we came from apes, correct?

Well, the evidence is pretty much undeniable. There are many lines of evidence that support our common ancestry with apes, but my favorite is endogenous retroviruses. Here's a post that describes them:
http://www.christianforums.com/t115...roviral-insertions-and-hominid-evolution.html

Here we have a series of genetic markers that exactly mimic the phylogenic tree. If we didn't descend from apes, there would be no possibility of any class of markers that would exactly mimic the phylogenic tree (provided that class of markers does not presuppose the phylogenic tree in the classification, as ERV's do not).

jamie4418 · Oct 7, 2006

From what animal did apes evolve from?

Chalnoth · Oct 7, 2006

jamie4418 said:
From what animal did apes evolve from?

This was answered in the other thread you started. I personally don't find it that interesting what specific animals we evolved from, but rather the simple fact that there is undeniable evidence that we share a common ancestry with our closest relatives, the apes, and exceedingly strong evidence that our common ancestry is shared among all life forms on this planet.

Others do find it interesting, of course, and these things have been investigated.

shernren · Oct 7, 2006

PanSapiens said:
Wow, like umm the Darwin bow is like... a joke!

But if that's too offensive, I've come up with a few other options:

= FALSE

or...

=

Not all or are creationists.

Not that I'm offended (that easily), but others might.

jamie4418 · Oct 8, 2006

Well, an evolutionist told me we humans all come from fish. FISH.

Does any sane minded person actually have the guts to believe we came from FISH????????

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