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You will need to break a rule of life and part with money to see the detail of the controversy that ensued. Basically the dean of the faculty tried to debunk it , having never even seen it. They also tried to sack and gag the pair for speaking out, and even for getting involved.
I don't recall saying anything like that, but I could have. The details of these events aren't particularly interesting to me, so I am unlike to invest much in the way of resources on any of them.
Perhaps you did not. But every time I suggest "buy the book" I am ridiculed by many posters for it!
Do you understand why we have no real interest in spending money on this?
This is not some sort of general topic of discussion (like evolution, or creationism, or ID creationism, or bible history, or theology). These texts seem mostly to be about one or a few obscure specific events that are largely of interest to those who already believe they are true.
Non eventsDo you understand why we have no real interest in spending money on this?
This is not some sort of general topic of discussion (like evolution, or creationism, or ID creationism, or bible history, or theology). These texts seem mostly to be about one or a few obscure specific events that are largely of interest to those who already believe they are true.
You have disproof of evolution?For those interested in creation, this is evidence of creation.
For those who believe in evolution, this evidence disproves Darwins theorem with the test Darwin himself set out.
For believers this is evidence of miracles.
I cannot think of a more important subject.
For sure, I currenty have books on the go , all the way from another take on quantum theory, to macro economics and the destruction of money, to the Rwandan genocide.
But in terms of impact Tesorieros latest book "My Human Heart" is far more significant than any of them.
Tell me. Why do you write so much on a thread that does not appear to interest you?
For those interested in creation, this is evidence of creation.
For those who believe in evolution, this evidence disproves Darwins theorem with the test Darwin himself set out.
For believers this is evidence of miracles.
I cannot think of a more important subject.
For sure, I currenty have books on the go , all the way from another take on quantum theory, to macro economics and the destruction of money, to the Rwandan genocide.
But in terms of impact Tesorieros latest book "My Human Heart" is far more significant than any of them.
Tell me. Why do you write so much on a thread that does not appear to interest you?
That was a simplified description of life on Earth, not a definition of life.
Abiogenesis is circular.
Re: CHNO, it is organic because it has the potential to kick-start life, and it kick-started life because it is organic.
It's not. "Creation" is generally considered about the creation of all living things at once at the beginning. This is at best some other sort of miracle.
Most definitely not. Nothing about these Eucharistic miracles impacts Darwin or any other evolutionary theory.
And that's the point now isn't it. For believers it means something. For the rest of us it means nothing. If it were good proof perhaps others would find it compelling.
I could think of hundreds.
All sound worthy of study and discussion.
So significant it has zero reviews on Amazon.
I have mostly engaged with the "side topics" very little with your favorite "miracles".
For those interested in creation, this is evidence of creation.
For those who believe in evolution, this evidence disproves Darwins theorem with the test Darwin himself set out.
For believers this is evidence of miracles.
There is no "evidence" for Creation.
Evolution has little if anything to do with abiogenesis.
Do they have forensic evidence too? I doubt it... If you see any, tell me!Which is why it is important to always remember that other faiths also have miracles which the believers believe totally.
I am not going to tackle it blow for blow.
Any instance of creation validates a conjecture of all life from creation, particularly when the alternative is so ill defined. So these are very important.
But I suggest you read up on what Darwin said would falsify his theory. These do.
Life appearing where there was none, and without the small steps supposed by evolution is certainly evidence of creation. It may not be proof, it is certainly evidence.
That is a hobby horse of mine. Whatever the evidence of the evolution of life, it has little to say about how it started. I tend to get shouted down when I say so!
Do they have forensic evidence too? I doubt it... If you see any, tell me!
The types of miracles you promote are not creation. Period.
Assuming they are real and not fraudulent or mistakes, here are some alternative possibilities:
* some sort of advanced tissue replication technology more advanced than 3D printing currently, but less so than "Star Trek replicators", by advanced or supernatural beings
* magic
* a proper divine miracle from some entity in the Christian pantheon (Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirt, an Archangel, Mary, some other saint)
Even if El himself both created the Earth and all of its life *and* caused the Eucharistic miracles. ONE IS NOT PROOF OF THE OTHER. Each must be demonstrated separately.
I am not going to tackle it blow for blow.
Any instance of creation validates a conjecture of all life from creation, particularly when the alternative is so ill defined. So these are very important.
But I suggest you read up on what Darwin said would falsify his theory. These do.
Let us start with a dictionary definition.
Creation is "the action or process of bringing something into existence"
At cochambamba a local (atheist) report first filmed a statue weeping, live on camera, later bleeding.
Other TV crews saw exactly the same with rolling time in the TV image.
CT scans showed that the statue had no hidden passage ways , even of the size of a human hair.
The blood formed scabs showing it was live at the time , and that was confirmed by white cells analyzed showing trauma.
That blood was "brought into existence" (by person or process unknown) . It did not come from anywhere else or anyone present as DNA tests confirmed.
So by the definition you have it was indeed created by agency unknown. Although the likeness of the statue might just give you a clue.
What it did show was a complex "organism" structure from other than small steps. So therefore defeats Darwins theorem by his own test. The heart myocardium is of course more significant as an organism.
The act of creation being a miracle simply defines the agency as God.
It is does not define it as other than created. All creation biblical is assumed also to be a miracle. Bringing into existence.
Let us start with a dictionary definition.
Creation is "the action or process of bringing something into existence"
I love watching magicians perform. It helps me realize that no matter how aware we are of potential flaws in our perception, we can ALWAYS be incorrect on it. I'm not saying the weeping/bleeding statue in Bolivia is ipso facto "fake", but rather that it is highly improbable given that people have been fooled by things SO OFTEN that a more common explanation may be that it ISN'T a miracle.
We've even seen miracles debunked!
Miracles are extremely important for you and your faith. They act as a cornerstone for you, a touchstone if you will. And that's cool. That's your faith.
When I'm presented with something in the lab that shouldn't have happened but did I am afraid I am not allowed to invoke miracles. I try to use that in my daily life. If I were a man of immense faith I would hope my faith didn't require that I need miracles to bolster it. If God is, indeed, the creator of all things His work should stand on its own.
The idea of the "God of the Gaps" is disavowed by many theologians because it risks making God smaller and smaller with each advance in science. And indeed we've seen that happen over the course of human history.
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