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"Cannot"Doesn't matter. You still can get modern human genetic diversity from a single couple. You have to invent later miraculous changes to genes solely to explain away the disagreement with real genetics.
The scientists themselves never said anything but "maybe."
It happens frequently.
But changing labels doesn't change reality.
As Zenith put it, shouldn't the quality go in before the name goes on?
Some combination of excitement and fame seeking. Finding a new pig isn't particularly impressive, finding a new human ancestor is universally more impressive, with the added bonus of making the USA relevant to human evolutionary history.Okay, thanks.
For the record, I believe you.
Question:
When it was:
... why was it given a scientific name?
- proposed as an ape
- had no skull to study
- with genetic studies pending that would have properly identified it
Some combination of excitement and fame seeking. Finding a new pig isn't particularly impressive, finding a new human ancestor is universally more impressive, with the added bonus of making the USA relevant to human evolutionary history.
I've never seen any indication that Nebraska man was a deliberate fake, merely an enthusiastic error.
As to how did it get a scientific name? They aren't awarded by the ultra board of science... anyone can name something, but it's unlikely others with recognise it. This sort of thing can take a while as different scientists review and publish research and justifications.
The media can get involved as well to give a misleading interpretation of evidence and events.
An interesting modern example is the Denisova fossils... we have no skull, but there has been genetic studies done. Scientists haven't given it a scientific species name because they don't know for sure if it's a variation of modern humans, Neanderthals or an example of the Homo longi species.
One doesn't need to be a YEC for the other qualifications to be applicable.If you're referring to me as being "profoundly ignorant or intellectually dishonest or mentally weak or simply insane" --- I'm not a YEC.
One doesn't need to be a YEC for the other qualifications to be applicable. View attachment 344725
Your insistence on a 6000 year time line doesn't match up with the claim.--- I'm not a YEC.
I'm not a YEC.
Your insistence on a 6000 year time line doesn't match up with the claim.
All of your of events are based on a 6000 year time line. Take the dating of the Genesis Flood for example, or the Red Sea crossing, or your affirming many times over Ussher's accounting of the date of creation. Your dating is all based on that 6000 year time line. You are a YEC, clearly.1. How old do YECs say the earth is?
2. How old do I say the earth is?
3. Does that qualify me for being a YEC?
All of your of events are based on a 6000 year time line.
You are a YEC, clearly.
The time frame you use is not based on an old earth. It's based on the Bible's 6000 time line. That makes you a YEC. I don't see any other way around it. Even when the supposed God initiated embedded age event happened, for you that's based on a young earth time line. Wasn't it right after the Genesis Flood when you say that God cleaned up his mess that He embedded age? Which was when? You can't even say when unless its based on a young earth time line. That's YEC stuff.So?
I see.
Here, let me answer those questions for you:
QUESTION: How old do YECs say the earth is?
ANSWER: 6000 - 10,000 years old.
QUESTION: How old do I say the earth is?
ANSWER: As old as God willed it.
QUESTION: Does that qualify me for being a YEC?
ANSWER: No.
I lost my qualification for being a YEC when I started agreeing with academia that some things are older than the hills.
Question: Are YECs the same as Embedded Agers?
If not, what's the difference?
Wasn't it right after the Genesis Flood when you say that God cleaned up his mess that He embedded age?
dlamberth said:The time frame you use is not based on an old earth.
Both you and creationists claim the Universe to be created. This makes you a creationist.So?
I see.
Here, let me answer those questions for you:
QUESTION: How old do YECs say the earth is?
ANSWER: 6000 - 10,000 years old.
QUESTION: How old do I say the earth is?
ANSWER: As old as God willed it.
QUESTION: Does that qualify me for being a YEC?
ANSWER: No.
I lost my qualification for being a YEC when I started agreeing with academia that some things are older than the hills.
Question: Are YECs the same as Embedded Agers?
If not, what's the difference?
Both you and creationists claim the Universe to be created. This makes you a creationist.
Both you and YECs claim the hypothetical creation event happened 6000 years ago. That makes you a YEC.
driewerf said:The embedded age nonsense is just that: nonsense.
Except the flood isn't a when.The time frame you use is not based on an old earth. It's based on the Bible's 6000 time line. That makes you a YEC. I don't see any other way around it. Even when the supposed God initiated embedded age event happened, for you that's based on a young earth time line. Wasn't it right after the Genesis Flood when you say that God cleaned up his mess that He embedded age? Which was when? You can't even say when unless its based on a young earth time line. That's YEC stuff.
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