So Simon will you be attacking the EO like you do the RCC for similiar views on such things as the Eucharist, Mary, and such?
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Please share with the readers what iconostasis is and how its involved in your worship.
ooh thanks! i've been looking for some of those to show my friendsMaybe something about our practices...
The most basic prayer in Orthodox Christianity is based the story of the Publican and the Pharisee... "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner." And of course the Lord's prayer.
Most of our hymns are composed from the Psalms and other scripture, often with a refrain in between verses. I tried to find some examples in English:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3PWNyBddvg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yys0Y1MSMg
ooh thanks! i've been looking for some of those to show my friends
that overlap is insaaane! i've never seen that before!!!Interesting... it should.
It's Christ the Pantocrator Icon.
The earliest surviving original work is this one.
One half of the face is said to be judgement and the other mercy.
It was written in the 500's and is the first Icon of Christ fully grown.
The Prototype of Christ's head is this... The shroud. Even the flowers are in the right place.
Forgive me...
that overlap is insaaane! i've never seen that before!!!
also, i confess, before i knew what that icon was His eye used to freak me out
wow! that is one gorgeous church!My wife and I are looking to visit a new church that the EO built here in Braintree MA. it looks absolutley beautiful and was wondering if there is any sort of dress requirements or retrictions that we should know about.
I've always had a big fancinastion with the EO,
When in Greece a few years back as part of a tour we visted a monestary and all the women on our tour had to make sure the legs were covered, if not they handed out long skirts to wear.
Thanks
here is a picture of the Church they built
the first one, no.Do you find that you have to listen hard to understand the words?
Forgive me...
My wife and I are looking to visit a new church that the EO built here in Braintree MA. it looks absolutley beautiful and was wondering if there is any sort of dress requirements or retrictions that we should know about.
I've always had a big fancinastion with the EO,
When in Greece a few years back as part of a tour we visted a monestary and all the women on our tour had to make sure the legs were covered, if not they handed out long skirts to wear.
Thanks
here is a picture of the Church they built
Not the place for this...Be respectful!So Simon will you be attacking the EO like you do the RCC for similiar views on such things as the Eucharist, Mary, and such?
Not the place for this...Be respectful!
Please share with the readers what iconostasis is and how its involved in your worship.
He lined its interior walls with cedar boards, paneling them from the floor of the temple to the ceiling, and covered the floor of the temple with planks of pine. 16 He partitioned off twenty cubits [i] at the rear of the temple with cedar boards from floor to ceiling to form within the temple an inner sanctuary, the Most Holy Place. 17 The main hall in front of this room was forty cubits [j] long. 18 The inside of the temple was cedar, carved with gourds and open flowers. Everything was cedar; no stone was to be seen.
19 He prepared the inner sanctuary within the temple to set the ark of the covenant of the LORD there. 20 The inner sanctuary was twenty cubits long, twenty wide and twenty high. [k] He overlaid the inside with pure gold, and he also overlaid the altar of cedar. 21 Solomon covered the inside of the temple with pure gold, and he extended gold chains across the front of the inner sanctuary, which was overlaid with gold. 22 So he overlaid the whole interior with gold. He also overlaid with gold the altar that belonged to the inner sanctuary.
23 In the inner sanctuary he made a pair of cherubim of olive wood, each ten cubits [l] high. 24 One wing of the first cherub was five cubits long, and the other wing five cubits—ten cubits from wing tip to wing tip. 25 The second cherub also measured ten cubits, for the two cherubim were identical in size and shape. 26 The height of each cherub was ten cubits. 27 He placed the cherubim inside the innermost room of the temple, with their wings spread out. The wing of one cherub touched one wall, while the wing of the other touched the other wall, and their wings touched each other in the middle of the room. 28 He overlaid the cherubim with gold.
29 On the walls all around the temple, in both the inner and outer rooms, he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers. 30 He also covered the floors of both the inner and outer rooms of the temple with gold. 31 For the entrance of the inner sanctuary he made doors of olive wood with five-sided jambs. 32 And on the two olive wood doors he carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers, and overlaid the cherubim and palm trees with beaten gold. 33 In the same way he made four-sided jambs of olive wood for the entrance to the main hall. 34 He also made two pine doors, each having two leaves that turned in sockets. 35 He carved cherubim, palm trees and open flowers on them and overlaid them with gold hammered evenly over the carvings.
Please share with the readers what iconostasis is and how its involved in your worship.
Please share with the readers what iconostasis is and how its involved in your worship.
CONCLUSION
From the time of the Second Temple in Jerusalem until the present day, priesthood and people have been separated by real and synbolic barriers. While the iconostasis in its later evolution cannot be said to derive directly from ancient and venerable tradition, the separation of clergy and people upon which it is predicated existed in Apostolic times, being directly inherited by the Church from the Temple. None of the ancient, Apostolic Churches challenges this practice. From veil to reiling to chancel screen to iconostasis the intent and purpose has remained the same; only the form has changed. The iconostasis of today is merely the continued manifestation of the ancient belief and practice that the holy of holies is to be reserved exclusively for those who are ordained to celebrate the Holy Mysteries.
according to my current war (see signature) this is uncalled for. Simon has said nothing that warrants such a reacation in this thread. Perhaps it is more prudent to wait until someone actually says something offensive, before ascribing offense.No you're right this isn't the time or place put just wanted to point out your double standards.
may I ask why?Men should have their arms covered when visiting Monasteries.
Forgive me...
my pleasurethanks Thekla, being here in New England a scarf is not far away.
Yeah it is gorgous isn't it? We are very excited, for one I have never been to an EO service, I love to go to different denominations and learn as much as I can, and second we have watched them put this church up from the first brick, it took them a few years but it was completed a few months ago and we are very excited to go.
Thanks again
Whats with the accusations today? I show no double standards, if you think I do the least you could do is put it out there so I can defend myself.No you're right this isn't the time or place put just wanted to point out your double standards.
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