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Whatever medicinal properties it may have is irrelevant as Marijuana is illegal in most countries. The Bible does say that we are to obey our government leaders on this.Polycarp1 said:God created all things, and called them good. But humans have a tendency to misuse and abuse His creation.
Both alcoholic beverages and marijuana are no exceptions to that rule. There is a proper use and an improper use.
Wine in moderation, for those who do not suffer addiction, relieves stress and calms worry, and at times of celebration "makes the heart glad." Again in moderation, it has minor health benefits.
It has to be remembered that before Mr. Welch's experiments, there was no way to preserve unfermented grape juice -- it 'went bad' quite quickly, even when kept in an ice house or something of the sort. The custom, therefore, was to allow it to ferment to a fairly low proof, one that would kill off the bacteria and such that would make it spoil, and then drink it, diluted with some water, as the beverage with meals. Even children would drink this weak wine, properly diluted.
Scripture is careful to point out, however, that it is easy to get into a state of mind where getting drunk is enjoyable -- and that this is, to indulge in understatement, unwise.
Marijuana is not directly addressed in Scripture, though the substance may have been known, and some scholars think that there are tangential references to it. But likewise it has specific medicinal properties, related to reducing blood pressure, alleviating severe chronic pain, and in particular in treating glaucoma, the blindness-causing disease where fluid pressure in the eyes increases far beyond the normal level, and for which marijuana seems to be virtually a natural specific in alleviating that problem.
Likewise, it is probably useful in moderation for stress management and the like, though owing to modern opposition to it (for good reason considering some of the abuses), this is difficult to prove under normal circumstances.
Bottom line: almost everything that God created can be used to man's benefit or abused to his sorrow. And these two substances are part and parcel of His creation, and fall under that general rule.
First of all, the chemicals that you consume from alcohol or smoking are not healthy. Second of all, God said that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit that lives within you, you are not your own. By drinking alcohol and smoking, that would in fact be destroying your temple slowly and what did God say about destroying his temple? --brightlights said:i wanted to post this as a reply in the beer thread (christians only>life stages>men's corner) but im not 18:
guys im sorry to raise this question in a simple conversation thread, but i'm kindof troubled. i always thought that it was immoral to drink. i know jesus drank wine, but the alcohol was from the biological breakdown in the grapes. please forgive me for bringing this up, i just have to know. how do you guys justify it? what is the difference between drinking a little beer and smoking a little pot? i can only see how alcohol could distance a person from god, not bring one closer or remain in a stasis. please help me to understand your views.
SORRY SORRY,
billy
i mean what is your input on this issue? i feel that drinking in this day and age is immoral. how do we justify jesus drinking wine?
What are you a spiritual attorney? Are you able without God's help to do this on your own? This is a very legalistic approach to the situation. Where is the Gospel message here?Everglaze said:First of all, the chemicals that you consume from alcohol or smoking are not healthy. Second of all, God said that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit that lives within you, you are not your own. By drinking alcohol and smoking, that would in fact be destroying your temple slowly and what did God say about destroying his temple? --
"If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple." - 1 Corinthians 3:17
You should keep your body Holy and pure, not purposely intake substances for your own self-pleasure when it will lead to destroying the temple. Please God, not yourself in this situation.
Valid and important point. Certainly any personal moral decisions should incorporate this. I was thinking along the lines that the vast majority of us CF members live in representative democracies (U.S., U.K., Canada, Australia, Ennzedd), many of which are re-evaluating the medicinal use of marijuana, and discussing what would be the appropriate moral decisions regarding its use if and when it is legal to do so.SLStrohkirch said:Whatever medicinal properties it may have is irrelevant as Marijuana is illegal in most countries. The Bible does say that we are to obey our government leaders on this.
Moderation is the key. As the Bible does not speak of consuming alcohol as a sin, only drunkeness. Drinking alcohol does not equal drunkeness. As it has been said a glass or two of wine a day can reduce the risk of heart disease. Wine has does have chemicals, flavonoids and antioxidants both which are good for the body.First of all, the chemicals that you consume from alcohol or smoking are not healthy. Second of all, God said that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit that lives within you, you are not your own. By drinking alcohol and smoking, that would in fact be destroying your temple slowly and what did God say about destroying his temple?
First of all, the chemicals that you consume from alcohol or smoking are not healthy. Second of all, God said that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit that lives within you, you are not your own. By drinking alcohol and smoking, that would in fact be destroying your temple slowly and what did God say about destroying his temple?
What if I eat McDonalds food? We all know that fast food is loaded with fat, carbs, calories...all those substances that aren't healthy for you. According to your train of thought, we should not eat McDonalds, BK, Wendy's etc because we are destroying our temple. Please shed some light on how you can Biblically draw this line.You should keep your body Holy and pure, not purposely intake substances for your own self-pleasure when it will lead to destroying the temple. Please God, not yourself in this situation.
Dad Ernie said:Greetings,
I agree with RVincent. I was a very heavy drinker until about '75 which the Lord took it completely out of my life. I tried wine and a little beer after that "deliverance" and it made me nauscious(sp?) I don't even like to be around people who have the aroma of alcohol on them. If the Lord set you free, you shall be free indeed. But as has been pointed out, "do all things in moderation, let nothing (of this creation) rule over you."
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
DeAnima said:is it ok to get drunk?
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