Both are disgusting, I think.What, exactly, about being a cocktease, is so traumatizing and awful? Does it somehow violate a man's bodily sovereignty? Traumatize him? Scar him mentally? No? Then there is no comparison. I'm sorry, there just isn't. One is a kinda crappy thing to do that will leave someone really disappointed... The other is rape
Both are disgusting, I think.
One starts a fire that needs a Fire Extinguisher to end it; pretty self centered behavior in my books.
The other has an issue with dominance, also a self centered behavior.
All I can say here on this forum, I'm glad my woman loves me, and I grew up in a less political correct time.
I did not say they are in the same behavior category. Read my post again....Are you serious? Violating a woman's bodily autonomy and violating her in a very personal, very traumatizing manner in order to get your rocks off is not "self centered behavior". It's sociopathic and criminal behavior. It doesn't belong in the same category as leading a man on and then saying "no". I feel like I'm repeating myself here, but if your impulse control is so bad that it is really painful for you to get blueballed, that's on you. It doesn't make the act of blueballing you criminal, it just means you need some counseling and probably a cold shower. It does not somehow justify rape, or place blueballing on the same level as rape.
So, a spouse can't decide her or she isn't in the mood after all?Women can't say "No" once the ball gag is in place.
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Just Kidding!
Guys, the best advice I can give is to NEVER have sex with a crazy woman. Eliminate all the casual sex and you eliminate the problem.
.....The difference here, of course, being that sex is not necessary for an individual's immediate survival, and that that hamburger isn't a thinking, feeling human being. This analogy is terrible, as it both paints recreational sex as some urgent, necessary thing (as opposed to, you know, recreation) and objectifies women completely.....
I did not say they are in the same behavior category. Read my post again.
Yet, as this Dr. suggested, it is not black and white when two consenting adults meet in bed.
As for political correctness, only those could make rape an absolute under any given circumstance.
So, a spouse can't decide her or she isn't in the mood after all?
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Guys, the best advice I can give is to NEVER have sex with a crazy woman. Eliminate all the casual sex and you eliminate the problem.
The point of my analogy wasn't so much equivalency in terms of survival vs recreation.... No. The point of my analogy was to present two situations in which the reptile part of the brain "can" overwhelm the cognitive part of the brain. Similar to my analogy about walking in on someone raping your child and then that person surrenders to you. Again, my point isn't about "legality" as legality is a nice cozy concept we can intellectualize about as we Monday morning Quarterback a situation... What I'm arguing is that in real life there will be times where legal and right and wrong become abstract concepts that are meaningless to the actions that have transpired or are about to transpire. And that breaking point is when you put yourself in a situation where the reptile brain "can" overwhelm the cognitive brain.
I'm not misconstruing anything. Married couple in bed, doing their thing, one or the other decides he/she isn't in to it and wants to stop. Think it can't happen?For the love of all that is holy, that is NOT the argument. We are talking about a very specific circumstance and situation when both parties have clearly demonstrated implied consent and then at the very last instance one party withdraws consent. This is clearly different than just two people lying in bed or one partner decided to arbitrarily have sex with the other...
hate it when people purposefully misconstrue an argument to make their point.
And when you do, it's still rape! Your bad impulse control (and, seriously, if this is how you think, you need mental help) does not excuse rape. Why is this so difficult for people to grasp? If you just mean it as a warning, well, warn away. There are some really crappy people out there. Thanks for the clarification, let's not pretend it's an excuse though.
Not so. "Rape" as defined in almost every legal dictionary involves "penetration." So unless a woman has some kind of prosthetic, she lacks the equipment to perform "rape."Look, it all comes down to consent. Rape is sex without consent. That's just how it's defined. And if I don't consent to sex, and you have sex with me anyways, you are raping me.
Not so. "Rape" as defined in almost every legal dictionary involves "penetration." So unless a woman has some kind of prosthetic, she lacks the equipment to perform "rape."
It varies by jurisdiction. Michigan changed it from "rape" to "Criminal Sexual Conduct," which covers a lot more activities than just forced intercourse.What word would you use to describe what happens to a man when a woman forces him to have sex with her against his will?
I heard a lot of girls in high school who did this on a regular basis.One would have to be a pseudo [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] to bring ones respective partner to this stage of arousal only to leave them high and dry...
No not an excuse, a reason. Will the reason prevent legal action against the rapist? No, it will not. However I submit that any woman who puts herself in this situation assumes her fair share of culpability and negligence. To me, she is not an innocent victim in this anymore than some idiot playing around with a loaded gun and accidentally shooting his friend.
You don't put yourself in potentially dangerous situations. You are an adult, you should be responsible for your actions and if you are a woman, putting yourself in this situation is irresponsible and dangerous and imo you don't get to play the part of the doe eyed innocent who is blameless.
Obviously my argument is not that the man is blameless. Rape is wrong yada yada yada. FWIW, these things don't happen out of the blue. The woman will demonstrate her propensity for these kinda games and the guy should have known better than to be involved with a cocktease.
Incidentally, if things ever do get to this point and either party wishes to withdraw consent for sex, usually "other" more acceptable forms of sexual stimulation occur which neutralize the danger and probability of rape. One would have to be a pseudo [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] to bring ones respective partner to this stage of arousal only to leave them high and dry...
Not so. "Rape" as defined in almost every legal dictionary involves "penetration." So unless a woman has some kind of prosthetic, she lacks the equipment to perform "rape."
Apparently the lawyers disagreed and generated new legal terms for other sex crimes. Probably changing the definitions would call older cases into question if the activity did not fit the new definition.This is some very old-school thinking, the kind of thing that needs to change in legal dictionaries. Badly.
Hmm. Never gonna happen. I do not see the point. But thanks for the info.Also, pegging is a sexual act where the woman has anal sex with a man using a strap-on [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse].
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