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I see your suffocating fish and raise you one muskipper.
Ah yes, because the Jesus Seminar do it, and because they're sceptics, it necessarily follows that ALL sceptics do it. And it always amuses me when someone makes a sweeping insult against 'sceptics', implying that they themselves aren't sceptics - and someone who isn't sceptical is a gullible fool.Actually, it's not even really a well thought out criticism. Those such as the Jesus Seminar aren't adding new scholarship, they simply start with the assumption that anything miraculous cannot and never did happen and procede from there to mark out any text that has to do with miracles. Not a very intricate or hard thing to do. Hume Voltaire probably began this tradition in full force that the modern skeptics continue to this day. It's the same argument today as it was when the enlightenment started.
Oh, wait, youre right; people often seem to be wide-awake and conscious after they are dead. How could I have missed that?What specific evidence do you have that the consciousness ceases?
No, they are a fully amphibious species of fish. That is, they can breath and move freely in water and on land.What is that, a type of frog?
That is a phenomenon called metamorphosis. Fascinating, but quite unrelated to evolution.Frogs start off as tadpoles and go through a series of changes to become a frog, just as a caterpillar transforms into a butterfly.
Whatever gets you through the nightIn the same fashion, when we are born-again, we become a new creature in Jesus Christ. God did it.
Oh, wait, youre right; people often seem to be wide-awake and conscious after they are dead. How could I have missed that?
Ah yes, because the Jesus Seminar do it, and because they're sceptics, it necessarily follows that ALL sceptics do it. And it always amuses me when someone makes a sweeping insult against 'sceptics', implying that they themselves aren't sceptics - and someone who isn't sceptical is a gullible fool.
So you genuinely do not consider yourself to be sceptical in any way, shape, or form? You don't require any form of justification before you will accept any proposition presented to you? Then I submit to you, sir, that the world will end tomorrow at noon (BST) unless you send all your money to my bank account.It's not an insult. It's just how they do it. Ehrman is the same way if you read him or watch him debate. It's the underlying premise of most of the discussion here, too - the need for naturalistic "proof".
So you genuinely do not consider yourself to be sceptical in any way, shape, or form? You don't require any form of justification before you will accept any proposition presented to you? Then I submit to you, sir, that the world will end tomorrow at noon (BST) unless you send all your money to my bank account.
There is no sound reason to believe that death is anything other than the permanent end to our existence. Death is inevitable. I am going to die, you are going to die and your children are going to die. No amount of fear or wishful thinking is going to change that.I wish I could say "Enjoy the paradise of complete nonexistence you have made up your mind to believe in, because you do not have proof of that "theory" just as my verses in the bible I present to you about the existence of hell do not ring true in your mind.
How can i ever compeat with your one-liner rebuttals?Also an untrue statement. What else do you have?
Dont tell me you actually believe it?Well, even the Bible says that.
No, they are a fully amphibious species of fish. That is, they can breath and move freely in water and on land. That is a phenomenon called metamorphosis. Fascinating, but quite unrelated to evolution. Whatever gets you through the night.
do you?You don't have a clue what I'm saying, do you?
You are entitled to your beliefs, whatever they may be.Besides, we all started off as sperm and an egg, and through a process repeated over and again from the first human to us, we produced a human, male or female. All except for, in my belief, Adam who was made from the earth, and Eve who was made from Adam's rib. I do not believe that man came from ape, or ape from fish. Man is one type of flesh, fish are another, reptiles are another, so on and so forth. There are also celestial bodies, stars, planets, and spiritual bodies, such as the spirit we have inside and our soul. Angels and fallen angels, where do you think alot of false religions, doctrines, and cults come from.
Inheritable mutation in enviromental attrition leads leads to adaptation within the species. This is evolution. Long-term evolution leads to speciation and modern terrestrial biodiversity. Bam. That is evolution in a nutshell.Yes, if sigma wants to learn a little about angels and dark angels, the devil, demons, and such, he can research on that, instead of making uneducated conjectures. I, on the other hand, do not know much about evolution.
When in doubt, accuse atheists of secretly being religious!If you want to talk about natural selection, adaptation of species, natural selection, that is fine, but the science part of the whole thing is way to complex and a waste of time. I would rather show you how transformation looks like through sperm and egg producing a human, and a frog, transforming from a tadpole, because transformation from a natural to a spirit man is somewhat the same, though a bit different. But, those things that are spiritually discerned are hard to put across, because of just that, the Holy Spirit comes in and takes the scales from your eyes so that you may see the kingdom of God. The kingdom of God cannot be seen unless you are born-again. If any of you wanted to get to know your God, you could, if you put the effort forth to get to know Him, instead of putting in the time to know your god, evolution.
Its not a frog. Its a half fish and half amphibian. basically the death blow to the video posted earlier. It is a living transitional species, that many creationists wish did not exist because it blows their unfounded claims right out of the waterWhat is that, a type of frog? Frogs start off as tadpoles and go through a series of changes to become a frog, just as a caterpillar transforms into a butterfly. In the same fashion, when we are born-again, we become a new creature in Jesus Christ. God did it.
"Wiccan_Child" is my alias on Christian Forums. It is not indicative of my actual faith (though I can see why it would be misleading).</br></br> Moreover, you can indeed by categorised and pidgeon-holed. You are, among other things, a Christian. I would also (tentatively) call you a Creationist, as you seem to believe that Genesis is a literal, historical account.He gets me through my whole life. He even puts me in situations to get me through it. It is for my benefit, so that I may become stronger. Are you a wicca child or not? Wicca believes in a god and a goddess, right? Let us get this perfectly clear. I cannot be put into a box called Christianity, just as many of you cannot be labeled with a term like evolution, and wicca child be labeled wiccan.
Which doesn't really mean much to one who doesn't believe God exists. Would you be at all perturbed if a Hindu said the same things about Brahaman?</br></br> Didn't think so.Catholics, Mormons, and Jehovah's Witnesses cannot even follow their own doctrines and dogmas. I am definately not just stupid Christian. I am ignorant of alot, but to be stupid would just be an insult to the Holy Spirit, who takes of the Father and gives to us, if we are indeed born of the Holy Spirit. My spirit does bear witness with the Holy Spirit that I am a child born of God. Who will bring an accusation against God's elect, it is Him who justifies.
I don't think I am as skeptical as you, no. But one does not have to be as naive as you present to believe, either.
they do not, but that does not stop them from believing things without evidence
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