Do you believe that there were once kangaroos in the Middle East?

rachelg2004 · Jun 28, 2004

I recently had the opportunity to hear a Christian explain and speak on Evolution and the Flood. He asked us a few questions to see if we had been "evolutionized".

The questions were:

"Were there once kangaroos in the Middle East?"

Do you believe Noah took 2 of every kind of animal on the ark including the kangaroo?

Do you believe that there was a world wide flood?

Do you believe that after the flood 2 of every kind of animal got off of the ark including the kangaroo?

Do you believe that Mount Ararat is in Turkey ... which is in the Middle East?

If you said no to the question that there were once kangaroos in the Middle East ... I think I've proved you wrong.

Bushido216 · Jun 28, 2004

rachelg2004 said:
I recently had the opportunity to hear a Christian explain and speak on Evolution and the Flood. He asked us a few questions to see if we had been "evolutionized".

The questions were:

"Were there once kangaroos in the Middle East?"

Do you believe Noah took 2 of every kind of animal on the ark including the kangaroo?

Do you believe that there was a world wide flood?

Do you believe that after the flood 2 of every kind of animal got off of the ark including the kangaroo?

Do you believe that Mount Ararat is in Turkey ... which is in the Middle East?

If you said no to the question that there were once kangaroos in the Middle East ... I think I've proved you wrong.

In order.

No
No
No
N/A
Yes

PaladinValer · Jun 28, 2004

Since the who "argument" of the OP is really circular reasoning, I personally must reject it.

Orthodox Andrew · Jun 28, 2004

Maybe it's because I'm sick, but what's this post about?

Enigma'07 · Jun 30, 2004

The post is about how in order for kangaroos to be on the ark, the had to live in the ME. But how do we know that they didn't walk over from some distant land? It's a possibility.

artofwar · Jun 30, 2004

Yum all this talk about Kangaroos got me hungry

Orthodox Andrew · Jun 30, 2004

artofwar said:
Yum all this talk about Kangaroos got me hungry

A bowl of kangaroo stew, or just the usual kangaburger?

Bushido216 · Jul 1, 2004

Ack. I went to Australia once and I swear they were trying to kill me.

First they take my group on a camel ride that ended up by this ranch something that was converted into a big dining hall.

Main course? Camel steaks.

Now, this poor camel just lugged my *** across several miles of desert and now they want me to eat its Aunt Bertha?

And they did the same thing to me with the kangaroos. First they take us to a kanga petting zoo and then offer us kangaroo hot dogs. I even had one by accident because I failed to realize that something labelled simply "hot dog" might not be the regular brew.

Now, I'm not against Australians doing whatever it is you guys do, but at least warn those not from Down Under before you feed them things, ya?

artofwar · Jul 1, 2004

A bowl of kangaroo stew, or just the usual kangaburger?

Kangaroo steak actually mate

Ack. I went to Australia once and I swear they were trying to kill me.

First they take my group on a camel ride that ended up by this ranch something that was converted into a big dining hall.

Main course? Camel steaks.

Now, this poor camel just lugged my *** across several miles of desert and now they want me to eat its Aunt Bertha?

And they did the same thing to me with the kangaroos. First they take us to a kanga petting zoo and then offer us kangaroo hot dogs. I even had one by accident because I failed to realize that something labelled simply "hot dog" might not be the regular brew.

Now, I'm not against Australians doing whatever it is you guys do, but at least warn those not from Down Under before you feed them things, ya?

Haha its cause your a yank they done it, we play heaps of tricks on Americans cause they are the easiest to fool( no offence)

TasManOfGod · Jul 2, 2004

I believe kangaroos as with all animals roamed the whole earth including the Middle East. I surmise that in the WW flood some kangaroos (and other similar species) possibley survived as young in their dead mothers pouches while those from the ark could not survive and died out. The water levels after the flood then prevented any natural migration either way hence we have the spread we have today

Bushido216 · Jul 2, 2004

How Would A Kangaroo Survive In The Middle East?

Enigma'07 · Jul 2, 2004

Times change.

Bushido216 · Jul 2, 2004

W H A T?! What sort of answer is that? Unless the Middle East used to look like Australia then it doesn't make a frigging difference. A kangaroo couldn't survive in the Middle East. Likewise, an animal adapted for the Middle East would die as soon as it hit the shores of Aussie.

What A R E you talking about?

Freedom777 · Jul 2, 2004

Bushido216 said:
How Would A Kangaroo Survive In The Middle East?

Before you can answer that question, you need to answer the question, what was the middle east like soon after the flood? To answer the original post,of course kangaroo's were in the middle east. Gods word makes that cut and dry.And none of this interpretation bologna. Interpretation is the theistic evolutionists ultimate Strawman.The undisputed Heavy-weight Strawman of the century.

Bushido216 · Jul 2, 2004

I don't know, Freedom. I never looked into the state of things after a non-existant event. I imagine it was probably very wet, though.

Unless the flood had catastrophic climate effects, there is no way that a kangaroo could survive in the Middle East. And once it got there, there would be no way for it to get to Australia and keep up with the sudden and brutal climate shifts that would have resulted in present day Earth.

Freedom777 · Jul 2, 2004

Bushido216 said:
I don't know, Freedom. I never looked into the state of things after a non-existant event. I imagine it was probably very wet, though.

Unless the flood had catastrophic climate effects, there is no way that a kangaroo could survive in the Middle East. And once it got there, there would be no way for it to get to Australia and keep up with the sudden and brutal climate shifts that would have resulted in present day Earth.

I understand where your coming from, Bushido. It seems you have for the most part been taught and studied one side of the picture.There is a whole other side of the picture waiting to be revealed. It starts with a complete acceptance and faith in Gods word, its letting Gods word alluminate you to the secrets of his creation,not the other way around. Psalm119:25-27 I am laid low in the dust;preserve my life according to your word. I recounted my ways and you answered me;teach me your decrees. Let me understand the teaching of your precepts;THEN I WILL MEDITATE ON YOUR WONDERS. (emphasis added)
May God Place a burning in your heart to that end.To the other side of the picture.Thanks for your post, God Bless

Bushido216 · Jul 2, 2004

...

That doesn't answer the question. Infact, it neatly avoids it.

KleinerApfel · Jul 2, 2004

I shouldn't be at all surprised if kangaroos could survive very happily in the Middle East.
We have numerous breeding colonies of wild wallabies and parakeets, possibly some big cats, and probably various other "alien" creatures, in parts of the UK, so why not?

Blessings, Susana

Bushido216 · Jul 2, 2004

I'm going to be very simplistic in explaining this. Lord help me that I don't break something.

Susana,

Those populations can survive in those climes because they either (a) found parts of the U.K. environment suitable enough so that they could live and are now adapting or (b) were slowly introduced and slowly adapted to those climes.

However, simply dropping a kangaroo into the middle of the Middle East and letting it go would be very conducive to killing it.

KleinerApfel · Jul 2, 2004

The parakeets have been here about 50 years. It is thought the original handful escaped from a film set. Not much time to adapt unless they were already equipped for survival in a different climate from their usual home, which if I remember right was India. There are now several thousand.

The wallabies escaped from a wildlife park, again many decades ago, and adapted immediately to the cruel outdoors and different food, though I expect they did have food left for them by the original owners.

The big cats which are spotted from time to time are from various unknown sources, but at least one has been positively identified, (I think it was a panther) by a claw mark on someone's arm. These animals have been seen with young, though thankfully are extremely rare (or very timid and not seen much!)

Why could a kangaroo not survive the Middle East climate? They don't seem much different than sheep to me - eat grass, woolly coats, good to eat! Bit bouncier though.

Blessings, Susana

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