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Do facts actualy point to a Creator?

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The null hypothesis is the conditions under which the hypothesis is falsified. Sorry, but ignoring this fact doesn't make it go away.


What makes the scientific method illogical?
 
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If there are 6 billion people total, then there are 4 billion who think Christians are wrong.

And they think each other are wrong as well. If you look at the strongest numbers, then Christians have that, but this isnt about Christianity is it? Its about a Creator. 84% believe in some sort of creator. The math doesn't lie.
 
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And they think each other are wrong as well. If you look at the strongest numbers, then Christians have that, but this isnt about Christianity is it? Its about a Creator. 84% believe in some sort of creator. The math doesn't lie.

No, it is about THE creator. People claim to have the truth about who created the universe, yet the very people who claim to know the truth can't agree with one another. Kind of exposes them all as being wrong, IMHO.
 
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Your education system has failed you.

No it hasn't, you are just twisting statistics. Christians have the strongest numbers and if all people were to vote for their side in a pole, Christians would have the majority.
 
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No, it is about THE creator. People claim to have the truth about who created the universe, yet the very people who claim to know the truth can't agree with one another. Kind of exposes them all as being wrong, IMHO.

Logical fallacy.
 
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Yes, it has. 33% of a population is a minority.

Lets all go vote for our belief in a pole and see who would win. Christians would win by majority vote. End of story. Did you vote for Gore and his fuzzy math theory?
 
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Lets all go vote for our belief in a pole and see who would win.

Seems that has already been done. Non-Christian outpaces Christian 2 to 1.

Christians would win by majority vote.

Your education system has let you down. In order to get a majority you have to get over 50% of the vote.
 
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And people of faith outspace Atheists 84% to 16%

0% agreement among theists on who the creator is. So much for "spiritual truths".
I got to go. Work on those math skills while i'm gone LM

My math skills are just fine. At least I know the difference between a majority and a plurality.
 
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The null hypothesis is the conditions under which the hypothesis is falsified. Sorry, but ignoring this fact doesn't make it go away.



What makes the scientific method illogical?

Regardless, if every truth claim should be falsifiable, then the goal becomes to prove every truth claim wrong and not to find the truth claim that is actually true.
 
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Regardless, if every truth claim should be falsifiable, then the goal becomes to prove every truth claim wrong and not to find the truth claim that is actually true.

It is about predicting what one should see if a hypothesis is true, and then seeing if the evidence matches that prediction. It is as much about proving a hypothesis true as it is false.

Still waiting for that alternative method you claimed to have.
 
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Regardless, if every truth claim should be falsifiable, then the goal becomes to prove every truth claim wrong and not to find the truth claim that is actually true.
If there is no way to find out if a claim is false, there is also no way to find out if it is true.
 
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Still waiting for you to present a logical method that is not the scientific method.
The scientific method is not itself testable. It is a philosophical position. It is logical and for the most part I agree with it. But consider this
The scientific method has limitations. I don't need to show an alternative method for this to be true. We use our minds and make inferences from what we observe. Science after all simply means knowledge. Positing a Supernatural being from observations of what is made ( the material World) is not unscientific given an adequate explanation, relating to observed facts.

We can, and do, make logical inferences from observable data. Those inferences may be wrong, but scientists make inferences every day.


As I'm on my iPad the typing is slow. More can be said. Chew on it a while before dismantling.
 
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