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Nah. Evolution is just a temper tantrum.
I expect atheists to have integrity. If there is no intelligence behind your existence, then stop using language to describe it which implies intelligence.
Sounds like you've got all the jargon worked out.
Can you show where in the theory of weather that there is purpose, meaning, or intent? If not, my point stands.
You missed the point.
And from you, no evidence that there is any of those things [i.e. purpose, meaning, intent, intelligence...] in the process of evolution.
What we really want to know is why you think anyone has to derive meaning or purpose in their lives from the process of evolution.
Yeah, of course. Next time you're enjoying your food, be sure to remember it was the rain that made it possible.
No, I hit the nail right on the head. It's easy to blame God for the problems you don't feel like dealing with (that is, when you're not busy denying that there's any purpose or reason behind sickness in the first place; random mutations with no intelligence behind it, remember?).
That you even question where you came from in the first place shows you have a desire for meaning and purpose. Evolution won't provide that for you, which is why people are so keen to use language which implies meaning and purpose to describe evolution.
And nobody expects it to, neither theist nor atheist. No scientific theory can do that, one way or the other.That you even question where you came from in the first place shows you have a desire for meaning and purpose. Evolution won't provide that for you...
Huh?
Where are atheists doing that?
And yet you have been unable to provide any evidence that evolution says anything of the sort. Science websites and textbooks don't say that, as you pointed out. My colleagues who are evolutionary biologists don't say that, as I've pointed out. The dictionary -- which you said was where we should look for definitions -- doesn't say that. As far as I can tell, this alleged statement by evolution exists solely in your mind.Sure it does. Evolution very clearly states that there was no purpose, intelligence, or meaning behind either the advent of life, or the activities of life thereafter.
That's an old trick Endtimes, we've seen it before. Using non-scientific definitions of words from popular speech equivocally in a discussion of science is a logical fallacy; doing it intentionally as you are doing here is sophistry, a form of lying.It's true.
Natural selection.
Here's the definition of selection:
1. carefully choose as being the best or most suitable.
And here are the two definitions for "careful"
1. making sure of avoiding potential danger, mishap, or harm; cautious
2. done with or showing thought and attention.
You're saying evolution "carefully" selects organisms to live? It avoids potential danger and shows thought and attention? LOL Right. It also carefully selects organisms to die, too, which means the "selection" becomes completely meaningless.
Whether an organism lives or dies, according to evolution, doesn't have anything to do with selection. It's all based on the random chance that a mutation will happen in an environment where that mutation will prolong life long enough to pass on to their offspring.
If a mutation and the environment are beneficial, then organism is selected to live. If it is not beneficial, the organism is selected to die. There is no selection in evolution. That's just a word that makes the theory sound a little warmer, but a warm lie is still worse than cold comfort.
It's true.
Natural selection.
Here's the definition of selection:
1. carefully choose as being the best or most suitable.
And here are the two definitions for "careful"
1. making sure of avoiding potential danger, mishap, or harm; cautious
2. done with or showing thought and attention.
You're saying evolution "carefully" selects organisms to live?
I asked you to show where there is purpose, intent, and meaning in the science that describes the natural process of weather. You have thus far been unable to do so.
Until you do so, can we conclude that our scientific understanding of weather has the same faults as evolution?
Are you saying that God intentionally gives children mutations that gives them genetic diseases? Yes or no?
What is true?
Selection does not imply intelligence
Natural selection.
Here's the definition of selection:
1. carefully choose as being the best or most suitable.
we've seen it before.
And yet you have been unable to provide any evidence that evolution says anything of the sort. Science websites and textbooks don't say that, as you pointed out. My colleagues who are evolutionary biologists don't say that, as I've pointed out. The dictionary -- which you said was where we should look for definitions -- doesn't say that. As far as I can tell, this alleged statement by evolution exists solely in your mind.
No, you're just being stubborn. You don't see any purpose in the rain which waters crops, gives animals water to drink and makes life generally livable for us? You see no purpose there? Really? That's just plain stubbornness.
Whether one sees purpose in the rain or not is one thing. Whether one expects the theory of the hydrological cycle to express that purpose is another. Further, to say that if the theory does not express that purpose it denies it is just more of your sophistry.No, you're just being stubborn. You don't see any purpose in the rain which waters crops, gives animals water to drink and makes life generally livable for us? You see no purpose there? Really? That's just plain stubbornness.
The clue is in the word "natural".
Are you really trying to dismiss a scientific theory with semantic games?
Where is the intent?
No, you're just being stubborn. You don't see any purpose in the rain which waters crops, gives animals water to drink and makes life generally livable for us? You see no purpose there? Really? That's just plain stubbornness.
If humans aren't helping one another, it's not God's fault. We're always looking for someone else to blame...
What comment of mine you were responding to. XD
Yes it does. Read the definition.
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