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Chi_Cygni said:
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From H2179 (in the original sense of flapping); the tail (literally or figuratively): - tail.
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Chi_Cygni said:The word was 'penis'. It was the prudish nature of 17th century England that changed the word to tail when the KJV was 'manufactured'.
I thought this was as well known as the Reed sea somehow becoming the Red Sea.
Poetic, no?Split Rock said:Strange.... I didn't know that dinosaurs with teeth like Tyrannosaurus and Allosaurus, etc, ate grass. Also, I didn't know that they wielded swords. I also seem to recall quite a number a dinosaurs that were rather small.
Did those christians also deny that Jesus cast out demons as well ?There was no Great Flood. Scientists who were also Christians and many of whom were ministers showed that the Great Flood never happened by 1831.
The straight answer is that Creation did not happen by a literal reading of Genesis 1. That is, God did not create that way.
Follower of Christ said:Did those christians also deny that Jesus cast out demons as well ?
lucaspa: The straight answer is that Creation did not happen by a literal reading of Genesis 1. That is, God did not create that way.
Not bold at all. Remember, we have told you that you can absolutely prove the negative statements.
VERY bold statement .........youre ABSOLUTE PROOF please ..
FYI:JohnR7 said:The dinosaurs were a part of the old world that was here before. Only a small remenant of them survived. Crocodiles and turtles for example. Both do still get big if they live long enough. Crocodiles can get up to 25 feet in size and turtles can get up to three or four foot in size.
cdj said:Grr can someone please give me a straight answer!
I guess if dinosaurs were also wiped out in the Great Flood then the bones would still remain?
So they must have been alive at some point, and before Adam was made?
Yes?
Actually, "penis" is the Latin word for "tail". The Roman word "mentula", was considered too obscene for public use. Any time that a euphemism becomes widely recognized, a new euphemism must be coined.Chi_Cygni said:The word was 'penis'. It was the prudish nature of 17th century England that changed the word to tail when the KJV was 'manufactured'.
I thought this was as well known as the Reed sea somehow becoming the Red Sea.
Well, some dinosaurs were probably warm-blooded. And it would seem that Class Reptilia is a catch-all classification in which are placed a diverse assortment of species that don't conveniently fit anywhere else. Were they to be reclassified today, Testudinata, Crocodilia, and Dinosauria would probably be placed in separate classes. Aves (birds) might be placed in the Dinosauria.JohnR7 said:Are you saying that a dinosaur is not a reptile?
Are you saying that crocodiles and turtles were not around back when there were dinosaurs?
http://town.morrison.co.us/dinosaur/taxonomy/dinotax.html 06/04/04Subclass Dinosauria
Infraclass Theropodia
Order Ceratosauria - primitive meat-eating dinosaurs.
Order Coelurosauria - small, hollow-boned dinosaurs.
Order Ornithomimosauria - toothless dinosaurs.
Order Deinonychosauria - "terrible-clawed" dinosaurs.
Order Carnosauria - large meat-eating dinosaurs.
Infraclass Aves - birds.
Infraclass Sauropodomorpha
Order Prosauropoda - Anchisaurus, Thecodontosaurus
Order Sauropoda - Brachiosaurus, Diplodocus, Apatosaurus
Infraclass Ornithischia
Order Ornithopoda - Iguanodon, Maiasaurus, Parasaurolophus
Order Stegosauria - Scelidosaurus, Stegosaurus
Order Ankylosauria - Nodosaurus, Ankylosaurus
Order Pachycephalosauria - Pachycephalosaurus, Stegoceras
Order Ceratopsia - Psittacosaurus, Protoceratops, Triceratops
Jet Black said:Oh dinosaurs were still alive when man first came to be. Of course the only extant Dinosaurs by then were birds, since all the others, like Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops and so on died some 60 odd million years earlier. hope this clears things up for you.
All Ive seen is your folks interpretation of evidence....sorry If I disagree1. A Great Flood never happened. Therefore the existence of the fossil record falsifies creationism.
Im sorry, Im trying to understand where youre coming from on this one....2. The Linnean classification system, which is a nested heirarchy. Independent creations or objects cannot be classified in a nested heirarchy. That plants and animals can be classified that way is absolute proof that a literal Genesis is wrong.
3. Phylogenetic analysis. This is analysis of DNA sequences from plants and animals. If creationism is correct and there are separate "kinds" that are independent creations, then the DNA sequences have to be independent. BUT, phylogenetic analysis has conclusively shown that units of biology -- from DNA sequences thru higher taxa -- are not independent but related thru historical connections. Absolute proof creationism is not the way God created.
PLEASE....... you INTERPRET as such proof......4. Intermediate fossils. A literal Genesis has independent "kinds" -- not connected. Therefore there can be no intermediates between one kind -- such as reptiles -- and another kind -- such as birds. But the fossil record has thousands of intermediates in the correct time sequence linking one kind to another. Absolute proof that creationism is wrong.
Falling away from said kinds due to mutation since the curse Id call it5 Observed speciation.
You HAVE no absolute proof and we ALL know itThis only scratches the surface, but we can start here before we go into the other absolute proofs or more detail into these absolute proofs
No, I am not saying that. I'm saying that a crocodile is not a dinosaur. For example: snakes are reptiles, but they are not dinosaurs. Dinosaurs are reptiles, but they aren't snakes.JohnR7 said:Are you saying that a dinosaur is not a reptile?
No, I am not saying that. Even non-avian dinosaurs existed contemporaneously with crocs and turtles. There were also fish that were around back when there were dinosaurs, yet, they were not dinosaurs.JohnR7 said:Are you saying that crocodiles and turtles were not around back when there were dinosaurs?
*sarcasm alert OFF*JohnR7 said:Maybe dinosaurs could not swim, so they did not make it through the flood.
Do you ever get tired of teaching something as FACT when indeed it is not.....Arikay said:Follower:
Do you get tired of repeating fallacies or are they on a rotating macro script?
I have an idea, until you give us absolute proof you are a human, your computer exists, you are actually typing your posts and you aren't just an illusion, we will ignore your calls for absolute proof, K?
Follower of Christ said:Do you ever get tired of teaching something as FACT when indeed it is not.....
Of course the observed details are factual enough.......its your interpretation thats lacking.......
(FOC hops on over to AIGs siteArikay said:I have never taught the theory of evolution as fact, so no, inactivity doesn't make me tired.
Time for a trip to that good game show Money Foot and Mouth. Maybe you can start a new thread (since isn't this one about dinosaurs?) and show us 1) how our interpretation is lacking and 2) how to reinterpret these observed details to fit creationism.
Follower of Christ said:(FOC hops on over to AIGs site)
Ok, I have a question. My biology teacher kept referring to birds as dinosaurs all throughout this year, and it seems u r saying this too. How r they dinosaurs? I understand that some dinosaur species evolved into primitive birds, and from there we get modern birds, but how does a modern bird = a dinosaur. That's like calling a mammal a reptile.
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