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Did sin come into the world outside of thought ...

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I don't get the idea of reasoning that makes us white as snow. It is our faith and belief in Christ's sacrifice and atonement for our sin that saves us.
 
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Not following you brother. Describe what process, and what do you mean by "as it would relate to you"?

Thank you kindly.

If it is not relational to us here and now it is not relevant, no more than our salvation would be if we had no relationship with the one who saved us; how then would we know that we are saved (even something so monumental (which is an understatement) as this is subject to thought, though we can add nothing to ourselves by it which is the same as to say we cannot take away from ourselves by it).

The process is found in our soul, and is likened to a garden, and a seed that is planted in it, even the kingdom (which for all tense and purposes is another picture of this same truth) is likened unto this same thing of seed time and harvest (Jesus even likening himself to this same process). A seed of course is a word which genders in us thoughts of itself.

To understand the process is to rule over it.
 
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What makes something sin?

If the mind of Christ is something you possess how can you sin ...
 
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I don't get the idea of reasoning that makes us white as snow. It is our faith and belief in Christ's sacrifice and atonement for our sin that saves us.

Thought is not separate from faith no more than works are separate from faith. Consider the Centurion who Jesus proclaimed as having the greatest faith in all Israel who logically came to the conclusion of why Jesus had no need to come to his house.

God declares the end from the beginning which is the same as saying it was over before it began. Jesus gave the prerequisite of being/going to heaven when he was talking with Nicodemus, saying (for all tense and purposes) that if you did not come from there you cannot get there, which to Jesus (which it should be the same for us, we being in him) was where he was.

We cannot reason with God without becoming one with him, which all are called to.
 
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