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Other peoples had their foundation-myths - why shouldn’t the Israelites/Jews ?

Why would Israel require an origin mythology if the God of the universe is working directly in their midst and giving them divine revelation? What motivates you to think they were myths? Can God not have revealed an accurate testimony of his works? Isn't this the whole premise of the Gospels? That God has moved and worked upon the earth?





The resurrection is certainly the most important for our salvation, but this is the exact same reasoning you could give for all of God's miraculous works on the earth. You could describe the parting of the Red Sea in the same language. Why mythologize any of the accounts of God's miracles on the earth?



God is not an historical character - the God-man Jesus Christ is an historical character, only because He is fully human. The standard of reality, is not man, or human history, but God.

What do you base this on? My Bible is full of God doing things in history and he loves to be praised for it.





The Bible is both historical and allegorical. There is no need to choose one or the other. The historical events themselves are the pictures that show meaning. The Genesis flood is a picture of worldwide wrath with salvation of a righteous remnant. David slaying Goliath is a picture of the weakness of God overpowering the strength and might of the world. God proves himself and the reliability of his word over and over again. It would be a mistake to say their allegorical value somehow negates their historical reality. Nothing in the Bible would lead one that conclusion, it is only world philosophy and science falsely called that demand history be stripped from scripture. I think you're really missing out when you fail to give God the glory for doing what he said he did, even what he directed his people to actually praise him for doing. These are the works of God that brought forth the Messiah. It was all part of one glorious plan, praise him for it.





The Bible's history spans a vast number of specific real world geographical locations along ancient nations and kingdoms. It even presents the very origin of nations on earth. No section of it is suggested to be a fantastical setting, and is presented alongside a continuous genealogy up to and throughout Israel's lineage leading to Jesus. Ancient Israelites and Jews of antiquity believed it was real history. Did they simply lack the wonderful enlightenment of us moderns?

It seems like a fair question to ask, if someone doesn't believe in God's past wrath on the world, are they really taking seriously his future wrath?
 
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In reading your responses, it strikes me how you seem to hold the 'non-historicity' of the Old Testament as some sort of axiomatic foundational truth that everything else must fold around. No matter how much it reads as history, it cannot be history. No matter how much Jesus and the apostles appear to uphold the reality of the OT scriptures, the answer must always be that they are uneducated, confused, (or perhaps secretly regard scripture as allegory but never even suggest so in any of their communications.)

My question is, Why? Why is it so important to you for the OT to *not* be history?

Why such resistance to believe that God did what the scriptures say he did?


Praise him for his mighty deeds;
Praise him according to his excellent greatness!

- Psalm 150:2


Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and they died. This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.
- John 6:49-50
 
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