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Saying the Flood was a miracle is not the same thing as appealing to miracles.same thing
Saying the Flood was a miracle is not the same thing as appealing to miracles.
God doesn't "appeal to miracles."
God tells nature what to do, and nature obeys.
God's commands to nature + nature's obedience = miracles.
The appeal process can take a hike.
Either you work for Disney, a toy store, you're in the Jim Stott Magic Fan Club, or you're an academian.overriding nature = suspending / violating natural law
That's magic.
Nature is their god, and their god is obedient to no one but herself.This is another pointless argument, as to a Christian the difference between magic and miracles is quite clear but to an atheist they cannot see it.
Either you work for Disney, a toy store, you're in the Jim Stott Magic Fan Club, or you're an academian.
Which is it?
Mabye all the above, or some combination thereof?
The difference seems to be nothing more then who is doing the trick.This is another pointless argument, as to a Christian the difference between magic and miracles is quite clear but to an atheist they cannot see it.
Nature is their god, and their god is obedient to no one but herself.
I imagine the thought of nature obeying the command of a transcendent God is anathema to them.
The difference seems to be nothing more then who is doing the trick.
If it's God, then it's a miracle.
If it's Harry Potter, then it's magic.
But the trick is the same in principle: a suspension / violation of natural law
Maybe an analogy would help.
Magic is when you use a cheat code already programmed into a video game to break the rules of the game.
A miracle is when the programmer of the game rewrites the code to break the rules of the game.
I disagree with that analogy.
If it's programmed in, then it's not a violation of its coding. At best, it might be a rare event.
But it wouldn't be an event that was "impossible, yet happened anyway".
A "rewrite of the code" isn't a proper analogy either. Because that would entail permanently altering the code (the "physics"), after which it again wouldn't be a violation or suspension of the code / physics.
The whole idea of miracles / magic, is that the physics (the "coding") is being ignored.
That won't stop academia from worshiping her.That makes no sense.
Nature doesn't fit into any definition of any theistic god.
Matthew 8:27 But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!DogmaHunter said:Nature has no sentience and therefor is not capable of "obeying".
Cheat codes allow you to ignore the normal coding of the game, but it's limited by what the programmer allows.
Rewriting the base code allows you to change the rules completely.
That won't stop academia from worshiping her.
It doesn't matter how I define worship.Unless perhaps if you completely redefine what "worship" means.
Makes no sense to me.
Unless perhaps if you completely redefine what "worship" means.
A smart person?It doesn't matter how I define worship.
It's how God defines worship that counts.
If the Bible says atheists worship nature, who am I to disagree?
Worship is praise. You know, the way evolutionists praise the way mindless nature installed God's superior intelligence inside Apes. It must be really sacred to them since none of them can tell us publicly. They've all got the hush mouth. Amen?
I don't "praise" evolution theory any more then I praise "atoms" or "plate tectonics" or "gravity".
Eve was made in the Garden. There is nothing wrong with it.
Animals were NOT made in the Garden. Animals are not allowed in the Garden.
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