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Come to think of it you could just become a scientist and the demons would have to leave you alone.
Do you think demons are just going to sit there and let themselves be interviewed, or jump through hoops while a shrewdness of scientists makes observations?
Well ... let's see ... would you come here and jump through hoops, if your "contemporaries" were carcases on Neptune, and your other "contemporaries" were reserved in chains of darkness?Why wouldn't they?
I'll do that ...Keep shooting yourself in the foot AV, it makes things easier for us.
Yup ... advanced scouting parties should just be walking around with signs saying, "We're here!"Possessions, curses, voodoo dolls, crystal balls, astrology, prayer, faith healing, etc. All fail when observed for scientific purposes. Strange that all these things only work when not being scrutinized.
AV1611VET said:Well ... let's see ... would you come here and jump through hoops, if your "contemporaries" were carcases on Neptune, and your other "contemporaries" were reserved in chains of darkness?
Yup ... advanced scouting parties should just be walking around with signs saying, "We're here!"
Shouldn't they?
Genesis 6.Evidence ple....never mind. Sure they were.
Genesis 6.
Why would you forget?Scouting parties, eh? I forgot you think you're in some kind of spiritual war...
Genesis 6.
I wasn't giving Genesis 6 as evidence.So...AV...we have a problem here.
When Genesis 1 says that God created the earth... according to you that isn't evidence of creation (since you said that there is NO evidence of creation). The biblical account therefore isn't evidence in your mind.
but when Genesis 6 says that angels were on Earth...that is evidence? So now the biblical account IS evidence in your mind?
Is Genesis considered evidence or not in your mind?
You can't have it both ways!
To an observer, it seems like you make it up as you go along...
mkatzwork said:Evidence ple....never mind. Sure they were.
Genesis 6.
I wasn't giving Genesis 6 as evidence.
I was merely backing my point up with Scripture.
That's what I thought you were looking for.
Yes.Were angels ever on the planet earth,
QV my signature.... and if so, what is your evidence (i.e. how do you determine the truth of that statement?).
Yes.
QV my signature.
The Bible says it, that settles it.
We call it 'basic doctrine.'We know you think that AV, and that is why no one takes you seriously.
Yes.
QV my signature.
The Bible says it, that settles it.
Because, as I have stated many times, creatio ex nihilo did not ... that's "did not" ... leave evidence behind.So why is the Biblical account of creation, given in the very same book, not evidence for you? You've already said there is no evidence of creation, and you used that as the very reason it should be believed (using the only latin I've seen you use, creatio ex nihilo etc.)...so is Genesis 1 evidence of creation, and if not, why not?
Because, as I have stated many times, creatio ex nihilo did not ... that's "did not" ... leave evidence behind.
I have an Apple Challenge that demonstrates just that fact.
In fact, my challenge forces you guys to demonstrate it.
By nature ... can you think of any evidence at all that creatio ex nihilo should have left behind?
A speck of dust? a drop of water? a stray light beam going in another direction? a misplaced planet? comet? a blade of grass at the bottom of the ocean? a grain of sand at the south pole?
Anything that would show it was done rather sloppily and haphazardously?
Or even neat and cleanly?
This universe didn't come into being via the Philadelphia Experiment.
How about the eyewitness account supposedly from the omnipotent deity himself? You don't consider that evidence?
If anyone you know is murdered, will you dismiss the eyewitnesses' accounts because you don't consider eyewitnesses to be evidence?
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