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Every Pentecostal I know is a fraud! I'll tell you about some of my nightmares with Pentecostals on the other thread.
Thanks for the insult pal. I suppose that includes Peter and all his fraudulent friends.
Obviously Jesus made a mistake when he sent the Holy Spirit.
You need to go back to the previous posts.How is that an insult ? He didn't say Peter nor any of Peter's friends were a fraud....
And Jesus never made a mistake, even when He chose a devil as a disciple.
He always did /does/ as the Father directs.
When the angels fell and were thrown out of heaven, just like when Adam and Eve were throw out of the garden, they then became subject to death, "in the body." When the angels were thrown out they were thrown out "body and all." They are ALIENS! When aliens die their spirit leaves their body just like ours when we die, except our spirit isn't free roaming like theirs. They will as you know be cast into the abyss when the Lord returns.
The dead Nephilim are in Tartarus, and so are the fallen angels who pro-created them. They are NOT free roaming.
Now I know you're going to come back and say angels have no body etc., and aliens are not fallen angels. If you only knew!
Again you raise the word possession, which I am sure you know is not scriptural.(just realized a question, maybe enlightening or at least pertinent)
WHO "possesses" (owns) (or controls) a person if they are following / full of / the teachings (thoughts) of demons ?
(Only Yahweh or the devil can be the answer I think, one of the two)
To stay on the narrow path of truth: "I am the way, the truth and the life - noone comes to The Father but by me". But "receiving salvation" is different from being judged on the right hand in Matthew 25. It specifically suggests that a person first needs to have salvation offered in order that it may be received.Really? So what, exactly, is the process of receiving salvation?
Exactly the reason I have said that. It is not justice to condemn a person for not having done so, if they have not had the opportunity to do so.From what I understand, it is the acknowledgement of Christ as the messiah, accepting His work on the cross, belief that He is the Son of God, submitting to Him and asking for His forgiveness of your sins.
How do you do this and not, as you have stated "believe in Him or worship Him"?
Perhaps.. depends upon what that specific reason was. Why does a SDA not worship and believe as a Catholic does? Why does a Catholic not worship and believe as a Mormon does? Why does an Anglican not worship and believe as a Jehovah's Witness does? .. can you see the problem? How can anyone, realistically, be expected to have had a fair offer to receive The Gospel in those conditions?I would go as far to say that this is EXACTLY why God will not allow you eternal life..... the EXACT reason is for NOT believing in Him and NOT worshiping Him.
I don't need to.You need to go back to the previous posts.
In Scripture, slave owners owned (possessed) slaves. As a possession.Again you raise the word possession, which I am sure you know is not scriptural.
OK thanks. Here's your question again.-In Scripture, slave owners owned (possessed) slaves. As a possession.
I thought I expressed that in the post you quoted, If not, sorry. That's what I meant.
(just realized a question, maybe enlightening or at least pertinent)
WHO "possesses" (owns) (or controls) a person if they are following / full of / the teachings (thoughts) of demons ?
(Only Yahweh or the devil can be the answer I think, one of the two)
Yes... (the quote function leaves out words sometimes, the last 2 days)...clarify
Maybe your quote function needs deliverance!Yes... (the quote function leaves out words sometimes, the last 2 days)...
You got me a little lost here, not sure what you're saying. Obviously there are countless doctrines out there that originate from demons. The question is, how did they get traction into the church?As the thread title is demons real or not, I was pursuing something more than your position - obviously demons are real ....
For instance, 'further', for clarity for all, (I haven't examined nor explored this particularly, so I'm not sure how to phrase this question)
Concerning (teachings?) that are doctrines of demons followed (and posted?) leading many people of the world (in and out of many groups) astray >>
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some ...
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,
But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, King James Bible
1 Timothy 4:2 · 1 Timothy 4 · 1 Timothy 3:16
Maybe your quote function needs deliverance!
Silly though it sounds, from my non techie observation, computer viruses and even cookies carry out a remarkably similar function to demons.
Remember WHEN ?Obviously there are countless doctrines out there that originate from demons. The question is, how did they get traction into the church?
Yes. The battlefield of the mind is examined Scripturally by a few men of God in various (older, not newer) books or sermons online. Most of the 'newer' television and internet media are among those led by the enemy, not just merely deceived by him. (it seems from so many of them exposed over the last 61 years particularly ) (most of them still "accepted" by huge crowds deceived) ....Someone either spoke or wrote them out. So where did he hear then, and was he an unbeliever or a believer?
If a believer, how did a demon speak to him, within or without?
In my mind, both routes are common in the church.
To stay on the narrow path of truth: "I am the way, the truth and the life - noone comes to The Father but by me". But "receiving salvation" is different from being judged on the right hand in Matthew 25. It specifically suggests that a person first needs to have salvation offered in order that it may be received.
Exactly the reason I have said that. It is not justice to condemn a person for not having done so, if they have not had the opportunity to do so.
Perhaps.. depends upon what that specific reason was. Why does a SDA not worship and believe as a Catholic does? Why does a Catholic not worship and believe as a Mormon does? Why does an Anglican not worship and believe as a Jehovah's Witness does? .. can you see the problem? How can anyone, realistically, be expected to have had a fair offer to receive The Gospel in those conditions?
You are wrong about this. You keep going your way then, and by your own words be acquitted and condemned. I have no interest in discussing with you and that teaching you have.Even a young child knows that pulling his sisters hair is wrong. Stealing a toy that is not theirs, taking two cookies when they have been told to take one... They know.. they don't have to be taught.
Not on everyone's heart.Right and wrong is written on our hearts.
HALLELUYAH !All religions are man made. Thus, they are all flawed and have mistakes and errors. Christ did not teach religion.. He taught a relationship with Him.
Well, I don't know what bible you read, but the one I read says this, which states that sinners with or without the law will be judged and perish as will those who who know the law will:You are wrong about this. You keep going your way then, and by your own words be acquitted and condemned. I have no interest in discussing with you and that teaching you have.
Jewish believe that Satan isn't evil as Christianity does. He is still an angel who's role is to test man to increase their faith or expose their faults (as shown in Job) and also be an accuser of man before God.What do you mean by "Jewish Theology?
From what I can see it's scriptural.
Yes, i agree as well. That is why i don't believe people just shoot up to heaven or hell because there are sins that are not evil enough; sins that were made due to bad decision making, ignorance, or whatever circumstance.I believe that Christ is very capable of understanding what life.....
There is no man, woman or child that is going to stand before Christ and be able to say.. "You don't understand.. it's not my fault"... Not one.
We all will be judged by our choices in life and we will all be "without excuse" when it comes to that very important question... "did you accept Christ or reject Him"?
Think of sin like this... You have worked at a factory for 50 years.. every day, no holidays, no sick days, not time off and not one late day. They can pull up your record of employment and there is not one day that you were not there or not even one second late. You never left early, you never took too long for lunch...
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However, "all have come short of the glory of God".
Therefore... you cannot stand in the presence of God and say that you have met what is necessary to enter eternity.
Only Christ has done that.
My example is a wee bit exaggerated but the point is made... It only takes one infractions... selfishness, gluttony, a curse, a lie, talking back to your parents.... just one and you are no longer perfect.
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