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Rochir said:If there would be one word which for you represents the essence and spirit of the Christian teaching - which word would it be?
Rochir said:If there would be one word which for you represents the essence and spirit of the Christian teaching - which word would it be?
Lithium Hobo said:Surprisingly, I've seen no real good answers to this thread. Yeah, I know, what does the atheist know about Christianity? Well, I don't know as much as a priest, but more than your common church goer.
But the word that describes Christianity, or should at least, is "love". Not god, not Jesus; nor mercy or grace. These things try to elevate Christianity above everyone else. Love says mercy and grace, Jesus and god, but doesn't leave that pompous taste in your mouth.
SPALATIN said:What is LOVE? Jesus himself said that Greater Love has no one than he who will lay down his life for a friend. He loved you Lithium. So much so that he sent the one person he treasured above all else--his son Jesus Christ to DIE for you.
You are correct. no one or two words can describe Christianity. But Christianity IS the only way. It is above all others.
Jesus Christ IS the Son of God sent to be a sacrifice for your sin and mine. His death on a cross is something no other religion in the world can claim. He was put to death in the body and made alive by the Spirit.
To reject that is to put yourself in GRAVE danger.
SPALATIN said:You are correct. no one or two words can describe Christianity. But Christianity IS the only way. It is above all others.
BrotherAtArms said:may i ask why?
BrotherAtArms said:Like I stated earlier, you can't blame a religion (Or a faith) by the actions of human beings.
I am blaming the religion not the faith. Christianity is a religion, now it is, but in bible days it was a faith
I could go around and start a religion serving something stupid like a monkey-flower god or something and call it Christianity, that doesn't make me right, or that religion Christianity...
Christianity is what the Bible says it is.
not now. Well it is somewhere I suppose.. . . ./ .
And the church of today you speak of can not be spoken of as a whole, because not all churches agree with each other's ways... But Christianity is the people who follow in Jesus's ways, and seek after Him, casting off all worldly desires, and addictions.
God is the goal, and to worship Him is the meaning to our lives.
Then why do churches argue
People get confused though because of the choice He has given us, that choice is what makes us different from a soul-less puppet, either follow in His ways, or don't.
I choose to follow him but that is off topic
QUOTE=BrotherAtArms]you say you blame the religion, and I understand that, being that to be religious is just a basic "Process". Or tradition in a sense.
Why do churches argue? Because of the beliefs of the people IN the church.
Some say it is ok to this and that, but others believe it is not ok... so churches (or the people inside them) argue about it.
People may say, "I'll get to heaven even if I sin because God knows what is in my heart" when that's clearly not the case, by the scripture I supply above.
Those who choose to follow Him and His ways are what I consider Christians.
A person may go to church, but that doesn't mean they are Christian.
Church is there for the Word to be taught to us, and is also a place of worship.
The Bible (I can't find where exactly right now) says that we should not refuse the comeing together as a congregation in His name to fellowship and such.
Church is important, but remember, the Bible does say to beware of faulse teachings.
That's why as His people we need to get closer to Him, so that we can have discernment of what is right or wrong, in any and all situations.
BrotherAtArms said:That's correct that we can not judge anyone and condem them to hell, I completely agree with that.
But...:
Matthew 7:17-19
17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
I believe we cannot use these to judge the fruitGalations 5:19-23
19The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
You can tell a person by the fruit they bare, but to judge is to condem. We cannot judge
You're completely takeing what I say out of context.
People are not the fruit, they are the one's who BEAR the fruit.
If you know a man who goes around sleeping with other women besides his wife that he married, you would label him an adulterer.That's not judgeing the person, that is knowing what he is by the fruit he bears
BrotherAtArms said:When God says not to judge, to judge would be to say, "He's going to hell."
No one can say this because they don't know the person's heart.
After a man has commited a single act of adultry, yes, that was a sin that COULD send him to hell, BUT, in his heart he has repentance, and is sorry for what he has done, and asks God to forgive him, ofcourse, he is able to go to Heaven.
But I won't argue that the act was adultry.
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