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Yeah, it's funny you accuse atheists of this, because your world-view seems completely closed to the possibility that deities don't exist.The gods were never invented. They exist even now.
I would convict them of an inadequate world-view.
Every position contains baggage. Atheism is non-exempt. When one does not look to love and transcendence, one looks to lower sources of happiness. Materialistic life is the result.
The gods were never invented. They exist even now.
I would convict them of an inadequate world-view.
Every position contains baggage. Atheism is non-exempt.
When one does not look to love and transcendence, one looks to lower sources of happiness. Materialistic life is the result.
When one does not look to love and transcendence, one looks to lower sources of happiness. Materialistic life is the result.
Atheists are not opposed to love, and are not opposed to transcendence. Philosophical atheists may have elevated sources of happiness, and not be particularly materialistic.
Your prejudice against atheists has blinded you to their possibilities.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Wonderbeat-Either your ideology seems to be blinding you from the facts regarding Atheism or you are simply just deliberately ignoring them.
It appears that you are intolerantly or obstinately devoted to your own beliefs, opinions and prejudices.
Some Atheists on this thread have educated you about certain points regarding Atheism yet it appears you have dismissed those critical points entirely.
If you had educated yourself about Atheism beforehand you may not have started this offensive smear campaign.
Surely ones integrity is worth more than that.
Your words reflect an inner hatred and intolerance, but I still love you Wonderbeat.
As long as you are enthralled by the critical mind love is impossible.
Wonderbeat, you don't know me. Let that point sink in.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Who said anything about who knowing who? I am simply stating the facts as I see them. Take 'em or leave 'em.
Your use of the word "you" suggested a personal observation. If you meant the generic "you", that's different.
I don't mind you expressing your views. However, I do object to your prejudice regarding atheists.
eudaimonia,
Mark
As characters in books.The gods were never invented. They exist even now.
And it would be thrown out for lack of evidence, lol.I would convict them of an inadequate world-view.
As the neutral position, it is exempt.Every position contains baggage. Atheism is non-exempt.
Are you telling me how I think?When one does not look to love and transcendence, one looks to lower sources of happiness.
Atheism is not materialism. I am not a materialist. I don't even consider myself an atheist.Materialistic life is the result.
\As characters in books.
And it would be thrown out for lack of evidence, lol.
As the neutral position, it is exempt.
Are you telling me how I think?
Atheism is not materialism. I am not a materialist. I don't even consider myself an atheist.
Why should anyone else believe that gods are more than characters in books?I believe they too exist in other dimensions than our own.
You are the one trying to convict others. For that, you would need evidence.I am not an Evidentialist so why should I worry about that?
By "the truth", you mean "religion"?Actually, I believe we should destroy the critical mind as it is a hindrance to the truth.
Atheism is a neutral position on the existence of deities. I would lean towards ignosticism, myself.There are no neutral positions.
I project nothing inasmuch as you project.
Where did I do that?Why do you call yourself an atheist?
Then your conclusions, and the means to which you came to them, are in error.Is it something in name only? If not, then to some degree, I conclude things about you. Yes.
What are these factors, and how would you know this? More projection?Atheism contains many subconscious factors atheists themselves aren't even well aware of.
So you would like a free lunch? I'm not handing them out.Alright guys. You win. How am I supposed engage in discourse without having my views tossed in the crapper with critical points of view that don't give one the benefit of the doubt?
Using the approach of reason? That may put you on new ground. Take it slow.I am going to try to reason with people. That is what I am going to do. All the rest of this before, was just a presagement, a preliminary. I need to voice my opinion in a hard manner before I actually begin speaking my true truth.
So you would like a free lunch? I'm not handing them out.
Using the approach of reason? That may put you on new ground. Take it slow.
Alright guys. You win. How am I supposed engage in discourse without having my views tossed in the crapper with critical points of view that don't give one the benefit of the doubt?
I am going to try to reason with people.
Gods are in the air you breathe, the water you drink, the food you eat.
How about we begin there?
Since you claim to have the 'truth', you can start by laying out the methodology by which you ascertained this 'truth', what the 'truth' is and how it is demonstrable.
Actually, there is a third option. I am utterly convinced of the truth of my position, which is also the position of many others.
Simply put they are wrong.
I know everything there is to know about atheism in the modern sense. I still would describe it as demoniac. Not as a smear-level tactic, but as I genuinely still see it. An absence of love; sat-cit-ananda.
Integrity is listening to what the other side presents, and not getting all critical.
Your words reflect a critical attitude of caring for the truth, but I still distrust you and every atheist on here madaz!
I am going to try to reason with people. That is what I am going to do.
Gods are in the air you breathe, the water you drink, the food you eat. How about we begin there?
By chanting the names of Hari. Specifically, this mantra: ~ Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare / Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare ~
By vibrating this mantra within the heart continuously, you will realize Krishna, you will realize God.
And from there we can move on to authoritative sources, such as the Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam, the writings of the six Goswamis, and among others who are FAR more REALIZED than you already are, and who may tell us more things about God and all the interconnected things that flow from God....
For instance, God is a person.
This is revealed in shastra.
God is not some formless miasma or impersonal ectoplasm. God really is a Lord and wishes for you to be His friend, companion, and ultimately, lover.
God is intimate, and this is a verity.
I do not know this from deducting things "evidently"
but from experience,
and making the logical connections both from my experience and how it relates to Scripture.
In that sense, I am over and above the sense-perceptible world.
It is hearing about God, chanting God's names and meditating upon them, that one comes to a conviction of God and His reality. This way one overcomes the turbulent sea of birth and death and sails to the Promised Land of GOLOKA.
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