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anteloperunner

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Last night I let slip to someone that I was having urges to cut and possible do a little more. And they well call 911 on me. So I get a phone call from the police asking to meeting with me about the situation I said yes cause I didn't really know what was going on. The first thing the police officer did when he met with me was (you could see the clip off my knife in my pocket so i couldnt lie) was request that i give him any weapons i had...so im a little mad about that cause i lost my pocket knife last night. He then started talking about cutting and forced me to roll up my sleeves so he could make sure I didnt have any fresh cuts (this was all in a public place). He then wanted to know why I cut and all that junk...

I guess my question is how do you deal with people that you are forced to talk about SI with cause i'm still freaking out over last night and i cant seem to calm down
 

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that has to be the singlemost worst fear of anyone going through this. I am sorry, you must have felt so embarressed. It would have really gotten me uptight too...

But sometimes people will ask, and you can't deny it. All you can do is let them ask the questions. If you can answer, answer. If you can, try... if you can't, don't. Tell them you don't feel comfortable talking about it at the time... but seek help. Find someone to talk to. And preferrably someone who won't call 911 everytime you have an urge.

Praying for you. Lily00
 
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That sounds very strange to me, but then again. I dont live in amarica. The only time a police person would get involved is if you actuly said the words 'i am going to kill myself' then they would come & take you to a phyc ward. I happened to a friend earlyer this week.

It sucks talking to someone you don't know or trust about cuttin. Its hard enough talkin to someone you know & do trust about it.
&& noone should EVER make you roll up your selves if you dont want to. Its demening & upsetting.

I think it'll just take some time to get over what happened. It was pretty crazy & had no point but ou cant change whats happened.
Do you have to meet up with him ever again?

I guess if you want a good part of it,
at lest he didnt lock you in a phyc ward.
 
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i understand why he called and it was only really partially over the cutting. I'm still really mad at him over it and when i called him he told me he didnt care if I still here to tell him that I hate him.

im not sure i'm ever gonna tell anyone again...im pretty sure it is better to go back to holding everything inside and pretending im always fine.
 
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It's awful. I just stay as quiet as possible and tell them "that's private" if they ask something I am not comfortable telling them about. If you think it is awkward for SI try being called on for HI (homicidal intent/ideation). I shared a little too freely my thoughts/feelings/fantasies with someone I *thought* I could TRUST to be MATURE about it ... ... suddenly he is manipulating me trying to SCARE me into going to a hospital (and pay how, genius, with my looks?) and when i refused next thing i know the cops are coming round for a chat. they asked a LOT of awkward questions especially about my "religious" predilections and it made me right paranoid for a few months thereafter. it was awful, we had JUST moved into this nice house with lots of woods & privacy and for the FIRST time in YEARS i felt i had a "safe haven" to come home to, and this about ruined it (at least for a time).

the cops were nice enough though. they tried to be reassuring and calming toward me (i was clearly worked up, could not sit still, shaking all over, chain smoking, etc.) and they gave me a card for county mental health told me to call if i needed help, etc. it was scary going through that but in the end nothing bad came of it. so they have my name on a dossier, whatever.
 
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the words "I want to kill myself" werent involved. although the person did know i had access to a means...the police also took my gun on thursday night. (i offered it willingly to prevent problems)

CIA you are right that you should never have to roll up your sleeves but it was that or i end up in going to the hospital right then with him...luckly it had been a few days since i cut at the point.

i didnt end up in the phyc ward cause my councilor was called in.

i just wish more people would understand that the need to cut doesnt mean you want to kill yourself.
 
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antelope that is just so wrong on so many levels, what they put you through. it is so invasive. i've heard rumors there are advocacy groups you can appeal to and get them to do work to educate the police how to better approach those kinds of situations. maybe see if you can find one if you're interested in being part of the solution .......
 
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Police usually have no training besides what they read in a book, so when they go out to do their 'duty call' it's usually with the presumption that all suicidal/self-injurers want to harm anyone they can.

You're a suspect from the minute they get the call in my experience. Best thing you can do? If you're cutting, get help or something, though I can say it doesn't work for everyone. If you're seriously contemplating life, and the end of it, chances are you may be able to lie, but in the end, it's probably not what's best for anyone.

Police are no respecter's of persons. They are equipped with a badge and a gun.

I'm sorry for you're experiences. It's not okay, with them subjecting you to such, and if they would have had efficient training, they would have known that. It's not their place to play counselor, nor should it ever be employed as such. If they think there's an issue, they SHOULD have called a county social worker, as at least they have training.
 
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i remember my "friends" did that to me at my college.
One day, they were like, "oh we want you to see something, follow us". I thought it was harmless, so I went. Then, they literally tried pushing me into a counseling office at my college. It was humiliating.
I ran off and kept saying, "I will handle this stuff my own way". I did have someone to confide in already, so I called that person. He said he can understand they were concerned and care about you, but forcing you into that is another story because that makes you somewhat more inclined to harm yourself.

After a while on the phone with him, I did calm down. Sometimes, i feel, certain people shouldn't be involved in certain situations. I understand and see your friend was trying to help you, but calling 911 isn't the best idea IMO. Like Moriah said, its very invasive. If I was where your friend was (in her shoes), I would have sat down and talked with you instead, and suggest seeing a TRUSTED adult that you can confide in and feel comfortable talking with about this sort of stuff (which from what I've read, you have one, which is great).

In all honesty, when I did cut a while ago (i've been cut free for almost a year now), i've only confided in my trusted adult (a priest) and this forum. Ever since that one situation with my college "friends", it made me lose interest/ideas on telling others that I hang out with on a regular basis.

Maybe just stick with your counselor for now (or a very close friend --and us, if you want to confide in us-the forum-, like you just did). But thats just my opinion..others might feel different.
 
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I was freaking when I posted this.

I now know more about what happened.

Yeah it was wrong of him to do a cut check but all the information the police were given was that i had hurt and cut myself in the past and was planning to do it again. Based on this info the police officer did what he thought was best. I did have a talk with the person that made the phone call and we came to an understand that he needs to call me first because as much as he was concerned for me this was not the right mode for preventing me from cutting.

HolyOne - I am very parniod about telling anyone when I have the urge to cut right now even my counsilor

Alilsa - I didnt mean to frighten anyone with my orginally post and Im sorry if I did, I was just really needing to vent that night and had really no one I was willing to trust in RL at the time. But to answer your question, you can try to hide it and I did successfully for years but someone will notice, I thoughts I was awesome about hiding it cause i never got caught and then i actually was confronted by a woman at my church about it. It is better to find someone you can trust or seek out professional help than try to hide it. Cause it is possible to stop, I did once before and I will again soon.
 
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Holy One: I find what they did to you to be highly abusive. "Interventionists" can be so insensitive as to how they go about trying to "rescue" people ... Invasion and coercion externally by the humans is, or can be, terrifying to people who are dealing already with a sense of having our own SELVES "invaded" and "coerced" by these impulses and all the tangled up stuff that goes into them. The "smart" ones "get it" about that ... but the "unwashed masses" unfortunately do not. And the sad thing is, sometimes they are as much in it for the personal drama and excitement as for any desire to "help" you.
 
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Moriah_Conquering_Wind. I want to share a story you cause you seem so angry at the people around you that honestly although they may not have good methods they are doing their best to help.

About a year ago (I dont remember when) I started prayign for someone to come into my life to help me out. This came to me in the most unexpected way in the form of a former cutter who attended my church. Some here know I play guitar and I was playing at a church dinner when I was asked by a lady in her mid 30s so sit with her for the meal. I accepted thinkign for some strange reason she seemed firmilar and she was. Although she wasn't my ER doc about a week or so before she had seen me getting stitches for some cuts. She told me that she could tell I was hurting and not to freak out, she had noticed the long sleeves and other things a person that SI's tends to do. You see even though she is a former SIer at times she has threatened me and it isnt a good thing, but she was scared for me and my safety. I share that little story cause I was ready to give up on people but it proves that we shouldn't hide from help with someone offers, she has turned into a very good friend of mine and a rock in my life.

So yes people can go about it the wrong way but as I look back at people that have found out by accident and on purpose they all have one thing in common they want to help and see us get past SI. Just keep that in mind next time you get angry at someone that invades your privacy that they arent doing it to hurt you but they love you and want you better.
 
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