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Well, if you don't believe in creation ex nihilo (an unusual belief for a Creationist, in my experience--check with your Pastor) and you reject the creation ex materia implied by a steady-state universe, the remaining alternative is creation ex deo, in which God creates the universe from His own substance.You mean creation ex nihilo or out of nothing? I have never viewed God as creating things out of nothing. I have always conceived of him as using power to produce effects or his holy sprit to create things.
Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God has made me, And the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 34:14-15 "If He should determine to do so, If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His breath, All flesh would perish together, And man would return to dust.
Psalm 104:30
You send forth Your Spirit, they are created; And You renew the face of the ground.
Isaiah 40:26 (NIV)
26 Lift up your eyes and look to the heavens:
Who created all these?
He who brings out the starry host one by one
and calls forth each of them by name.
Because of his great power and mighty strength,
not one of them is missing.
Genesis 1:2 (NKJV)
2 The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters
“And the angel answered and said to [Mary], ‘The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you’” (Luke 1:35).
I read that when they first tested the Atomic Bomb in the USA they were not 100% certain that Earth's entire atmosphere would catch fire but they detonated it anyway.Ah, well, I wasn't hoping they would succeed. Sounds dangerous in my opinion to be messing with that sort of thing, they aren't exactly known to be predictable.
What does an electric universe have to do with creationism?There have been many threads and countless posts debating Electric Universe hypothesis.Here is a peer review that refutes the claims of EU.
Enjoy the reading: Dealing with Creationism in Astronomy: Electric Universe: Peer Review Exercise 2
I read that when they first tested the Atomic Bomb in the USA they were not 100% certain that Earth's entire atmosphere would catch fire but they detonated it anyway.
What does an electric universe have to do with creationism?
I heard that Mikey from the Life cereal commercials died when he consumed a combination of Pepsi and Pop Rocks. People hear a lot of things.
Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei.[note 1]
Manhattan Project - Wikipedia
What, no video?Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei.[note 1]
Manhattan Project - Wikipedia
That is right - Georges Lemaître used his brain to show that General Relativity allowed a universe to expand and supplied evidence that it was expanding. Sadly in an obscure journal so it was not until after Hubble's work that it became widely known.I find the title of this thread rather ironic since big bang theory was written by a Catholic Priest.
You seem to be ignorant about what the topic of this thread is (not atheists!), what you replied to and even atheism is, Radrook. Atheism is the stance that gods do not exist and so there are no creators.Isn't it amazing how logical atheists can be with cause and effect arguments until such arguments involve a creator..
mzungu overstated the black hole position slightly. We have strong evidence that black holes exist which makes it a scientific consensus rather than a fact.True but it is a fact that black holes have been discovered as predicted and that galaxies harbour at their core supermassive black holes. In fact we know they are there from the orbits of stars around the black holes or when they are in the process of feeding.
You may not see the air but you can see its effects.
Don't even try to convince me that black holes do not exist and that Galaxies are held together by electricity because that is not accepted by the mainstream and so long as it stays that way I will dismiss EU.
That is wrong. The Big Bang starts with an existing universe. There are astronomers supporting models of cyclic universes with no beginning.Both admit that the universe had a beginning.
YEC specifically and electric universe use some of the same logical fallacies and denial of well established physics.What does an electric universe have to do with creationism?
The blog really should be renamed "Crank Astronomy" to match the expansion main site:This is the second of five posts devoted to providing a more professional peer-review of the "Special Issue" of the Bentham Open Astronomy Journal (BOAJ) devoted to Plasma Cosmology and Electric Universe (PC/EU). While BOAJ claims to be a peer-reviewed journal, we'll see in the upcoming posts that the quality of the peer-review process for this issue was very questionable. Each of the articles exposed in these reviews exhibit many fundamental errors in physics (especially electromagnetism) and astronomy. Many of the unchallenged mistakes are at levels which could be identified by an undergraduate physics student or possibly even a competent EE undergraduate.
This site is the blogging component for my main site Crank Astronomy (formerly "Dealing with Creationism in Astronomy"). It will provide a more interactive component for discussion of the main site content. I will also use this blog to comment on work in progress for the main site, news events, and other pseudoscience-related issues.
Rational people dismiss EU because most of it is ignorant fantasies.
I have written about the Thunderbolts EU proponents who are Velikovskyian cranks on another forum.
YEC specifically and electric universe use some of the same logical fallacies and denial of well established physics.
That is right - Georges Lemaître used his brain to show that General Relativity allowed a universe to expand and supplied evidence that it was expanding.
Only ignorant people think that the Big Bang involves the creation of the universe. The Big Bang starts with an existing universe.
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