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I'm not a scientist but I build all sorts of things, and you always end up with a better product when you know what your building before you start. Evolution is (to possibly over simplify) a make-it-up-as-you-go way of doing things, and nature is too well thought out for that approach. That's my opinion, so wings keep it up!!!!
Actually it's just as you would expect it to be if evolution is true. For every perfect design there is in the world there are flaws, or wasted mistakes,
Matt wrote:
very true, and to the glory of God. Saying that God designed every detail is not only saying that God is a micromanger, but also that God is an incompetent designer. The Giraffe neck nerve is terrible, and there are lots of other examples, like, who would design a fully aquatic animal to have to breathe air? That's really stupid, yet, that's what whales have to do. Or look at sea turtles that have to come on land to lay eggs, and on and on.....
God is a much more powerful creator. He's a powerful enough creator to create a creation with the ability to fill in the details itself. Wow!
Or, one can be a creationist and diminish God to an incompetent micromanager. Your choice.
Papias
Matt wrote:
very true, and to the glory of God. Saying that God designed every detail is not only saying that God is a micromanger, but also that God is an incompetent designer. The Giraffe neck nerve is terrible, and there are lots of other examples, like, who would design a fully aquatic animal to have to breathe air? That's really stupid, yet, that's what whales have to do. Or look at sea turtles that have to come on land to lay eggs, and on and on.....
God is a much more powerful creator. He's a powerful enough creator to create a creation with the ability to fill in the details itself. Wow!
Or, one can be a creationist and diminish God to an incompetent micromanager. Your choice.
Papias
God is a micromanger
Giraffe neck nerve is terrible
who would design a fully aquatic animal to have to breathe air?
Papias-
So let me see if I understand, doing things right the first time is micromanaging? Would it be fair of me to say that billions of years of untold genetic misfits dieing and suffering makes kind of a cruel god?
As the recurrent nerve hooks around the subclavian artery or aorta, it gives off several cardiac filaments to the deep part of the cardiac plexus. As it ascends in the neck it gives off branches, more numerous on the left than on the right side, to the mucous membrane and muscular coat of the esophagus; branches to the mucous membrane and muscular fibers of the trachea; and some pharyngeal filaments to the Constrictor pharyngis inferior. theodora.com/anatomy
with out doing any research i gotta ask why would air breathing animal spend SO much time in the water that it would have to evolve in to a strictly aquatic animal?
I could keep going but I'm not going to, and that's just the science, never mind scripture.
So let me see if I understand, doing things right the first time is micromanaging?
Would it be fair of me to say that billions of years of untold genetic misfits dieing and suffering makes kind of a cruel god?
Giraffe neck nerve is terribleAs the recurrent nerve hooks around the subclavian artery or aorta, it gives off several cardiac filaments to the deep part of the cardiac plexus. As it ascends in the neck it gives off branches, more numerous on the left than on the right side, to the mucous membrane and muscular coat of the esophagus; branches to the mucous membrane and muscular fibers of the trachea; and some pharyngeal filaments to the Constrictor pharyngis inferior. theodora.com/anatomy
with out doing any research i gotta ask why would air breathing animal spend SO much time in the water that it would have to evolve in to a strictly aquatic animal?
I could keep going but I'm not going to,
and that's just the science, never mind scripture.
I realise all that doesn't answer this but I gotta say my question is just as validwho would design a fully aquatic animal to have to breathe air? That's really stupid, yet, that's what whales have to do.
and this is the same as saying "evolution-did-it"why would air breathing animal spend SO much time in the water that it would have to evolve in to a strictly aquatic animal?
instead of saying "we really don't know, and don't have any way of knowing"One likely reason they would spend that much time in the water is that they could likely get more food there. There are plenty of other possible reasons too, like hiding from predators, temperature regulation, etc.
The recurrent laryngeal nerve - you have to look at the way ALL the structures develop from the initial fertilization of the ovum on ward and the developmental constraints that are necessitated from the reality that certain systems HAVE to be functioning BEFORE other structures even exist.
All this together makes any findings suspect. If such flimsy findings can be touted as "good" then the ones doing the touting are simply working from the same assumptions.
I realise all that doesn't answer this {the question of why a competent designer would design a fully aquatic creature to need to breathe air} but I gotta say my question is just as valid.
instead of saying "we really don't know, and don't have any way of knowing"
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