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Create [bara] vs make [asah]

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ESV, Genesis 1:

26a Then God said, “Let us make [H6213 asah] man in our image"
H6213 occurs 2628 times.

27 So God created [H1254 bara] man in his own image,
Here H6213 and H1254 were used interchangeably.

in the image of God he created [H1254 bara] him;
male and female he created [H1254 bara] them.
H1254 occurs 55 times. We can see that bara does not exclusively refer only to the so-called creation ex nihilo (“out of nothing”)

Answers in Genesis:

It is true that in Scripture only God is the subject of the verb bara; men make (asah) things, but only God creates (bara).1 But God also makes (asah) things.
 
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ESV, Genesis 1:


H6213 occurs 2628 times.


Here H6213 and H1254 were used interchangeably.


H1254 occurs 55 times. We can see that bara does not exclusively refer only to the so-called creation ex nihilo (“out of nothing”)

Answers in Genesis:
I distinctly remember that you said on another thread that you do not like the term "ex nhilo" (Latin) because it belittles The Son in expression (My words of interpretation, not yours). I admire this theological point!

I will go forward to say that much of Christendom ardently defends that the Son has never not been, which is TRUE, of coarse. However, I don't think that a large portion of Creation considerers the Deeper implications about the Son in this "matter". In the Genesis account for the first few verses, we can't SEE the Son, yet, but we KNOW He is there and God is "Doing all things through Him".

I will be candid about my personal view on this matter. GOD didn't "Sacrifice" His Body for ALL of Creation, "just" on the Cross, in my opinion. I think God was REINFORCING a deeper implication, Spiritually Speaking. It is something I seldom talk about, but it underpins one of the reasons that I am beyond confident that God's very Core Characteristics DEFINE Humility, Self-Sacrifice, Love, Altruism and the like.

Strong's says something interesting about the Aramaic word Zoe.
Aramaic word Zoe: 2222 zōḗlife (physical and spiritual). All life (2222 /zōḗ), throughout the universe, is derived – i.e. it always (only) comes from and is sustained by God's self-existent life. The Lord intimately shares His gift of life with people, creating each in His image which gives all the capacity to know His eternal life.​
Now, I'm not attaching anything else to where Zoe fits or what all of this means and implies... but "ex nihilo" seems to be ignoring something.
 
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