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suzybeezy

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Do you mean if a pool was previously used for baptism and then you swim in it, would you be baptised?

Water baptism for the Christian symbolises our death, burial and resurrection with Christ. "Therefore we were buried with him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life." Romans 6:4

To be baptised you must do something practical. In Christian baptism you must identify yourself with Jesus Christ. As He dedicated himself "thus to fulfil all righteousness" (Matthew 3:15) so must you when you are baptised in water. You make a covenant with God to submit yourself to obey the Spirit of God to the point of death, dying to the deeds and lusts of the body and all that is old, to let the past be buried and to rise up to live to fulfill all righteousness - not through your old life but in the new life given by God.
 
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Baptism is from "anothen" which is from above...meaning it's GOD'S work and not something we can do to ourselves. The original language is in the passive tense.

It's possible to have been baptized and not know it. But, to go in the waters where a baptism has taken place, does not make you baptized, for you should be baptized "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit".

Baptism is not just symbolic, but is God bringing the benefits of the cross to you!
 
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Having swum in a body of water that has been used as baptismal water in the past does not mean that you have been baptized. A minister of the Lord has to do it. God does all the "real work" of course, but on our end, you need a baptizer. Also if you go by the Bible, you need to be a convert. You need to have made the jump and committed to following the Lord.
 
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When you come to Jesus, if you haven't already then you can ask to be baptised and typically the pastor or person baptising will ask a few questions; and some give testimonies, but not all.

So, is something you do by your will as is given to us to do in the scripture.

It does not change anything which we're already part of, the church (the body, not the building), it is showing the world (people), the powers and prinicipalities (demonic), who you are aligned with, meaning of course God.

So is not something could happen accidently; as coming to Jesus is by faith, your decision, and being baptised occurs as you ask that you be baptised.

This is not to be confused with the spiritual baptism which we do not see, which occurs when we come to Jesus.

take care,
tapero
 
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To be more clear, the intent was to baptize me, when I was young, because afterwards I was subtley told the water was blessed, and I think words were said by someone who might have been a minister, while I was diving for hockey pucks on the bottom (I'm not kidding). Then when I was asked if I hated God, I said "no", however, if I remember right I said something to the effect of "how can I hate something I don't believe in?". I was an angry Atheist at the time, suspicious and more concerned with the fact that someone tried to baptize me without my consent. It was no accident if I'm right. Sneaky Presbyterians
 
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Just a side note. I've never read of water in the bible being blessed before someone was baptised.

People went in the water and were baptised. Nothing is special about the water.

There may be denominations that speak of water being blessed; I'm just saying is not in the bible as to baptism by immersion.

But as to your last 2 sentences; you don't have to worry; as you were not baptized. Baptism doesn't do anything to a person; so it wouldn't do anything for you or to you. So can rest any concerns over it.

As may have been written in this thread; salvation does not come by being baptized.

And whatever words were exchanged also is just how you felt at that point, no more than that.

blessings,
tapero
 
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AshenMan said:
Is it possible to have been baptized without knowing it? I mean, infants are baptized without their knowledge; is it possible to have been baptized in a swimming pool that had been blessed by Presbyterians?
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Baptism is an intentional act. You can't really baptize someone against their will.
 
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Well, let's get a couple of things straight.

If someone told you the water was blessed, then it wasn't a Presbyterian baptism. Presbyterians don't hold to the baptismal element's power to perform baptism, so the water being blessed, doesn't have any impact there.

In fact, the Presbyterian theology of baptism requires signing up to a covenant with God, which it doesn't sound like you did. Your belief that God didn't exist would have prevented entering into an agreement with Him. It's not a baptism if your membership in the covenant were not acceded-to by either yourself or someone in charge of you. A Presbyterian minister doesn't serve in that capacity. But your parents could, though.
 
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