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A Facebook community called “Islamic Female Circumcision” was launched earlier this month with the stated goal of clarifying “misconceptions” around the Muslim faith’s practice of female genital mutilation or FGM.
The page already has more than a dozen posts, including articles and infographics advocating for the practice of what they call "female circumcision," instead of referring to the practice as 'mutilation.'
If they were doing it before Islam came, they didn't stop doing it when Islam took over. Nubian Christians lived in an Arab-dominated, Islam-dominated culture.It IS a cultural practice. Nubian Christians practiced it for a long time.. that is until Islam invaded and wiped Christianity out of what used to be Nubia.
A little of column A, a little of column B. In Africa, yes, it's practiced by a number of different cultures, both Muslim and non-Muslim. It also happens outside of Africa, though, and outside of Africa it's done almost exclusively by Muslims.It IS a cultural practice. Nubian Christians practiced it for a long time.. that is until Islam invaded and wiped Christianity out of what used to be Nubia.
They were doing this prior to Islam. They will do it after Islam.If they were doing it before Islam came, they didn't stop doing it when Islam took over. Nubian Christians lived in an Arab-dominated, Islam-dominated culture.
A little of column A, a little of column B. In Africa, yes, it's practiced by a number of different cultures, both Muslim and non-Muslim. It also happens outside of Africa, though, and outside of Africa it's done almost exclusively by Muslims.
In Africa, FGM is known to be practiced among certain communities in 29 countries: Benin, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Cote d'Ivoire, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Liberia, Mali, Mauritania, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Tanzania, Togo, Uganda and Zambia.
Certain ethnic groups in Asian countries practice FGM, including in communities in India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
In the Middle East, the practice occurs in Oman, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen, as well as in Iraq, Iran, the State of Palestine and Israel.
In South America, certain communities are known to practice FGM in Columbia, Ecuador and Peru.
And in many western countries, including Australia, Canada, Europe, the United States and the United Kingdom, FGM is practiced among diaspora populations from areas where the practice is common.
I'm confused. Your first post seems to say they stopped doing it because Islam wiped out Christianity, which is wrong on two counts. One, Islam didn't stop it, and two, saying the practice stopped because Christianity was gone implies that it was a Christian practice not merely a cultural practice.They were doing this prior to Islam. They will do it after Islam.
Well I worded it weird, let me correct you.I'm confused. Your first post seems to say they stopped doing it because Islam wiped out Christianity, which is wrong on two counts. One, Islam didn't stop it, and two saying the practice stopped because Christianity was gone implies that it was a Christian practice not merely a cultural practice.
And my point in what I said was just "look, here's more Muslims thinking they know their religion better than us." Whenever they're doing something we disapprove of, like mass murder or FGM, they say they're doing in in the name of Islam, and they don't care to listen when we tell them they're not.
These things are not unrelated or coincidental.Or perhaps in countries where Islam presides in the majority?
Female genital mutilation Type I and IV is prevalent in Indonesia;[202][203][204][205] 97.5%[205] of the surveyed females from Muslim families (Muslim females are at least 85%[206] of females in Indonesia) are mutilated by age 18. In certain communities of Indonesia, mass female circumcision (khitanan massal) ceremony are organized by local Islamic foundations around Prophet Muhammad’s birthday. Some FGM are Type IV done with a pen knife, others are Type I done with scissors. Two Indonesian nationwide studies in 2003 and 2010 found over 80% of the cases sampled involved cutting, typically of newborns through the age of 9. The surveys demonstrated that circumcision among girls and boys is a universal practice in the study sites, in all of which Islam was the primary religion. Across the sites, among all the children aged 15–18, 86-100% of the girls were reported already circumcised. More than 90% of families visited in the studies claimed they wanted the practice to continue.[203][207]Historical records suggest female circumcision in Indonesia started and became prevalent with the arrival of Islam in the 13th century as part of its drive to convert people to Islam. In islands of Indonesia, where partial populations converted to Islam in the 17th century, FGM has been prevalent in Muslim females only.[208][209] In 2006, FGM was banned by the government; however, FGM/C remained commonplace for women in Indonesia - the world’s largest Muslim nation.[210] In 2010, the Indonesian Health Ministry issued a decree outlining the proper procedure for FGM, which activists claim contradicted the 2006 ruling prohibiting clinics from performing any FGM.[211] In 2013, the Indonesian Ulema Council ruled that it favors FGM, stating that although it is not mandatory, it is still “morally recommended”.[212] The Ulema has been pushing Indonesian government to circumcise girls, claiming it is part of Islamic teachings.[213] Some Indonesian officials, in March 2013, claimed cutting and pricking type circumcision is not FGM.[214]
Do I? I didn't know that's what I thought or said. Thank you for informing me of what's going on in my head, I had no idea before you told me.I know you have a hard time imagining that barbarism like female circumcision exists outside of Islam, but it does.
Yes, but to claim that it isn't related to Islam in lots of places is dishonest. It occurs in places that are culturally and geographically distant, but that share Islam in common. Muslim leaders in lots of places encourage it because they believe it to be preferable to leaving women uncircumcised. It's clearly being done for religious reasons.Its a practice that predates Islam, Islam just does not disapprove of it.
Thank you. I was struck speechless.FGM, as opposed to male circumcision is totally useless and not at all comparable. The [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is not analogous to the foreskin on a male. A better compassion would be removing the entire head of the penis, effectively making it useless.
And that is exactly why they do this to women... because of their ancient beliefs and superstitions regarding sex, they think it should not be something a woman enjoys.
Cultural practice or not, FGM is downright evil.
Forgive me for sounding ignorant, but aside from loss of pleasure what is the difference between this and make circumcision of the penis?
FGM, as opposed to male circumcision is totally useless and not at all comparable. The [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is not analogous to the foreskin on a male. A better compassion would be removing the entire head of the penis, effectively making it useless.
And that is exactly why they do this to women... because of their ancient beliefs and superstitions regarding sex, they think it should not be something a woman enjoys.
Cultural practice or not, FGM is downright evil.
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