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So pony up with the evidence of the god of the Bible’s existenceThe only question is - does such a being exist.
That’s an interesting claim. Can you support it with evidence?But rocks, dust, gas, and sunlight will never turn into a horse ... nor even be able to turn a bacteria into a horse ... in all of time.
I also have no real idea what you are trying to demonstrate.WoW! Those first two posts must be very "very" difficult for our friends to deal with.
I thought it would be easier than this for them.
All the atoms in your computer were once dust. As were all the atoms in your body.My computer has carbon and petroleum derivatives in it .. that does not mean that rocks "have the property" all on their own to create animations in 3 D -- and if left to themselves the rocks would just do it.
My computer has carbon and petroleum derivatives in it .. that does not mean that rocks "have the property" all on their own to create animations in 3 D -- and if left to themselves the rocks would just do it.
we could all "pretend" that creationists are the only people that would "notice" that glaringly obvious detail... that is one solution.
I recommend that you read "The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. He is a former atheist who is now a devout Christian.So pony up with the evidence of the god of the Bible’s existence
Strobel's claims of being a former atheist are extremely dubious. Plus he knows no biology. Why would anyone listen to him?I recommend that you read "The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. He is a former atheist who is now a devout Christian.
"My road to atheism was paved by science...but, ironically, so was my later journey to God." - Lee Strobel
It wasn't mutations that turned prokaryote to eukaryote.
The E. coli long-term evolution experiment (LTEE) is an ongoing study in experimental evolution led by Richard Lenski that has been tracking genetic changes in 12 initially identical populations of asexual Escherichia coli bacteria since 24 February 1988.[2] The populations reached the milestone of 50,000 generations in February 2010.[3] Lenski performed the 10,000th transfer of the experiment on March 13, 2017.[4] The populations reached 73,500 generations in early 2020, shortly before being frozen because of the COVID-19 pandemic.[5][6]
Modern Humans Emerged 200,000 Years Ago. Why Was Technology Stagnant Until The Last 10,000?
Modern humans appeared 200,000; civilization 10,000; and advanced technology 500 years ago. Why no advancement for something like 190,000 years? originally appeared on Quora: the place to gain and share knowledge, empowering people to learn from others and better understand the world.
Answer by Richard Muller, Professor of Physics at UC Berkeley, author of Now, The Physics of Time, on Quora:
Modern humans appeared 200,000; civilization 10,000; and advanced technology 500 years ago. Why no advancement for something like 190,000 years?
Are you a lawyer by profession?Strobel's claims of being a former atheist are extremely dubious. Plus he knows no biology. Why would anyone listen to him?
There are Christians that at times get mad at God and claim to be an atheist until they get over their anger. They were Christians all along. Just ticked off ones for a while.
But go ahead post his best arguments. I remember how bad his other book was. We could all use a laugh..
Okay lets go back to the OP:
BobRyan said: ↑
A. Everyone (both Creationist and atheist) agrees that there was a time on Earth where it is a barren planet - no LIFE of any kind on it.
Agreed.
BobRyan said: ↑
B. Everyone (both Creationist and atheist) agrees that we exist on earth today with lots of diverse life forms.
Agreed.
BobRyan said: ↑
Creationists claim that the Bible Creation account shows that an infinite Being (infinite in wisdom and dpower) created all life on earth - with all land animals appearing in a single evening-morning "day" like the days in the Legal Code found here Ex 20:9, 11 - at Sinai.
Yes, this is agreed to too
First Premise -- on a combined complexity, power, wisdom and creative capability scale of 0 to infinity.
A rock: is at zero.
God: is at infinity
rocks ---------------------------------------atheist---------------------------God
Where "God" is the term defined in Websters as: "1 God : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as. a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped". The concept of a being infinite in wisdom, power, capability etc.
Creationists claim that the Bible Creation account shows that an infinite Being (infinite in wisdom and power) created all life on earth - with all land animals appearing in a single evening-morning "day" like the days in the Legal Code found here Ex 20:9, 11 - at Sinai.
Depending which "creationists" one is referring to, yes some of them claim the Bible shows that. .
"There EXISTS Creationists claim that the Bible Creation account shows that an infinite Being (infinite in wisdom and power) created all life on earth - with all land animals appearing in a single evening-morning "day" like the days in the Legal Code found here Ex 20:9, 11 - at Sinai
C. Everyone agrees that a man can turn a rabbit into dust in a single day. That is a given. (at something far below blast-furnace temp 3400 degree F)
So then clearly - an infinite being with infinite power and wisdom such as the Bible Creation account speaks of - can turn dust into a rabbit in a single day. As noted here #2
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This does not follow from the above.
Yes it is. That is the mechanism that a population changes it’s genotype and phenotype: the alleles in the population change over time.
My mistake. I meant to type Exodus 20:11--can't much do two things at once any more.
It now appears that even you realize that you have no details. .
I recommend that you read "The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. He is a former atheist who is now a devout Christian.
Your premise is flawed from the beginning. If you want to claim a God the burden of proof lies upon you. I could go on because your argument continues to fail, but that is good enough for now.hmmm-- after claiming you find "no details" in the OP we get this at your post 127... (finally)..
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your post 127 starts off reasonably
indeed it is obvious to all.
Ok so those were easy steps.
Now I added this to the top of the OP to make sure everyone is on the same page...
Do you agree or object? if you object draw the line you would agree to with only those three nouns on it and where "God" is defined as in the dictionary concept. Websters: "1 God : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as. a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped"
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But rocks, dust, gas, and sunlight will never turn into a horse ... nor even be able to turn a bacteria into a horse ... in all of time.
This also does not follow from the above.
First Premise -- on a combined complexity, power, wisdom and creative capability scale of 0 to infinity.
A rock: is at zero.
God: is at infinity
rocks ---------------------------------------atheist---------------------------God
Where "God" is the term defined in Websters as: "1 God : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as. a : the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshiped". The concept of a being infinite in wisdom, power, capability etc.
I am in it. It appears that you are not.Feel free to join the conversation at any moment.
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