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No.
It sounds silly. Family? Just...wow. Are we talking about a second cousin whom he cosigned a loan for?
The Crow company bought the properties for $133,363 from three co-owners — Thomas, his mother and the family of Thomas’ late brother, according to a state tax document and a deed dated Oct. 15, 2014, filed at the Chatham County courthouse.
I'm glad to hear it, though I didn't claim you did. I just pointed out there many on the Right, particularly the pro-MAGA bunch, talk about how persecuted Trump is (most persecuted in history) with no sense of irony when they chant "Lock her up!" and ignore the investigations she has been put through by some on the Right.
I'm pointing out that when a "Right Wing" justice (to mean a justice appointed by a Republican President) votes against the other "Right Wing" justices, it gets pointed out since it (for about 50 years) "flipped" the decision of the court towards the "Liberal" justices. By contrast, when a "Left Wing" justice voted with the "Right Wing" justices, it isn't really noticed as it would typically make the margin 6-3. That is likely the reason you think "Right Wing" justices "break ranks" more often than the "Left Wing" justices.
Not sure what you are saying "No" to here.
I didn't say that, I said that he (and every other Supreme Court justice) should be held to the same standard as all other federal justices. This includes recusing themselves if they have a conflict, which (in their ethics rules) includes a wife that works for a group that has a case before the court.
I tend not to "watch" news, period. I tend to read news from a variety of sources. And, if the claims made by the right wing are true, that isn't "lobbying." Don't get me wrong, I support a full investigation of the laptop and Hunter and wouldn't mind seeing laws that prevent the deals various government leaders, and their families, do with foreign nations after they leave office.
My point was the fact that we allow our government officials to take bribes -- both from lobbyists and, as you pointed out, from donors (particularly SuperPACS) during elections. Sure, we limit the amounts, in terms of what they can take from lobbyists and direct campaign donations (not to include PACs), but that doesn't change the fact that they are effectively a type of bribery.
Maybe, but from reading your post I'm not convinced. Can you point me to one post on any thread concerning the current resident where you clamored for ethical standards for the "Big GuY"?You know this how? In my case, though I'm not a liberal, I've consistently stated that we need to hold Supreme Court Judges to the same ethical standard that other Federal judges are required to follow. I don't care which Supreme Justice we are talking about.
You really don't believe Hillary has suffered at the hands of conservatives in a way that compares to the constant harassment of Trump by the left. Sure there were cries to "lock her up" but to imply she has been investigated, charged, impeached, hounded by the press for 30 years is a bit overstated don'y you think?It is? Is it the same spirit as the "get Hillary crowd?" I'll agree, though, that there is too much tribalism on both sides of the political aisle. My issue is that Trump supporters seem to believe it has never happened before, ignoring they've been doing the same thing to Hillary for roughly 30 years.
Again if Thomas is guilty of all of this where is your outrage for the rest of the corruption in Washington? Point me to any post where your demand ethics and justice for Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, AOC or any of that side of the isle.I can't speak for others but for me it is about ethics. Again, if we go by the ethics required of other Federal Jurists, Thomas has failed those guidelines for most of his term due to his wife's lobbying efforts for conservative groups that had business before the court. It is not proof he's been influenced by his wife but it does appear, particularly given the money paid to Mrs. Thomas based on her lobbying, to be a conflict of interest -- and again is prohibited by the ethics rules other federal judges are to follow. If this was a liberal justice, I'd want the same.
I agree, but I will be waiting for your links to posts on other threads demanding equal justice for offenders on the other side.Of course, I'm crazy enough that I'd like to prohibit most of what is paid to our government officials -- trips, meals, etc. that are funded by lobbyists -- just not gifts to the Supreme Court.
Do tell us of the ethical standards President Biden has failed to live up to, so that we can clamour. Then this what-aboutery can lead somewhere.Maybe, but from reading your post I'm not convinced. Can you point me to one post on any thread concerning the current resident where you clamored for ethical standards for the "Big GuY"?
Maybe, but from reading your post I'm not convinced. Can you point me to one post on any thread concerning the current resident where you clamored for ethical standards for the "Big GuY"?
This reveals the partisan nature of one poster's defence of Clarence Thomas - and that poster's view of Thomas as partisan himself.I will be waiting for your links to posts on other threads demanding equal justice for offenders on the other side.
The family residence exception is very specific:@RocksInMyHead ....why wouldn't that fall under the family residence exception?
(5)Transactions.—Except as provided in this paragraph, a brief description, the date, and category of value of any purchase, sale or exchange during the preceding calendar year which exceeds $1,000—
(A)
in real property, other than property used solely as a personal residence of the reporting individual or the individual’s spouse; or
(B)
in stocks, bonds, commodities futures, and other forms of securities.
Reporting is not required under this paragraph of any transaction solely by and between the reporting individual, the individual’s spouse, or dependent children.
4 lawyers, who know the law, commented directly on this.The family residence exception is very specific:
Thomas did not live in the house, his mother did. And last I checked, he is not married to his mother. Therefore, this does not meet the requirements for the family residence exception.
Maybe, but from reading your post I'm not convinced. Can you point me to one post on any thread concerning the current resident where you clamored for ethical standards for the "Big GuY"?
You really don't believe Hillary has suffered at the hands of conservatives in a way that compares to the constant harassment of Trump by the left. Sure there were cries to "lock her up" but to imply she has been investigated, charged, impeached, hounded by the press for 30 years is a bit overstated don'y you think?
Again if Thomas is guilty of all of this where is your outrage for the rest of the corruption in Washington? Point me to any post where your demand ethics and justice for Hillary, Pelosi, Schiff, AOC or any of that side of the isle.
I agree, but I will be waiting for your links to posts on other threads demanding equal justice for offenders on the other side.
Not really. I'm interested. If it is a long list, be selective.
I think I basically gave my response to this post in my response to Postvieww. Mostly what I'm getting is that what Thomas did isn't that bad because "whataboutism."Well in all fairness, as excessive as those investigations were, they ended once she left office.
Oh ok...you understand that wasn’t my personal opinion. It's an objective analysis.
The idea ethics matters here. I mean...
AOC solicited a bribe. She didn't just accept one....she asked for it. The total value was more than billionaires spend on the houses of SCOTUS Justice parents.
Unlike Thomas...there's a very real possibility of removing her. No sitting justice has ever been successfully removed. AOC can be defunded by her own party....
And her guilt is far more certain than Thomas'
And she's not the only one.
Well Thomas has recused himself 17 times over the years....sometimes due to personal relations, sometimes because of family having a relationship to the party....often due to business.
If you have any instance you're thinking of....let's hear it.
It's not just that....it's wayyy worse than you think.
She left office in February 2013, but the investigations continued. Even you must be aware that she was investigated twice by Comey's FBI for the email server; he announced very publicly two weeks before Election Day that he was reopening the investigation and only cleared her a mere 2 days before Nov 8, 2016.Well in all fairness, as excessive as those investigations were, they ended once she left office.
Was Donald baselessly accused of drinking the blood of children and wearing their faces as masks? Remember the "kill list"? The open-ended Starr investigation began in 1994 and didn't finish until four years later. While she was not criminally charged that may very well have been for lack of a case rather than from prosecutorial forbearance.You really don't believe Hillary has suffered at the hands of conservatives in a way that compares to the constant harassment of Trump by the left. Sure there were cries to "lock her up" but to imply she has been investigated, charged, impeached, hounded by the press for 30 years is a bit overstated don'y you think?
In an effort to bust out of my algorithms I did a search for "AOC solicits bribe" on duckduckgo (as opposed to my standard google search) and nothing even came close to that.AOC solicited a bribe. She didn't just accept one....she asked for it. The total value was more than billionaires spend on the houses of SCOTUS Justice parents.
For what?If there is no cry to hold the current resident accountable...
Here you go. Though I will agree that "bribe" is the wrong word to use.In an effort to bust out of my algorithms I did a search for "AOC solicits bribe" on duckduckgo (as opposed to my standard google search) and nothing even came close to that.
Do you have a source for this story?
Unlike Thomas...there's a very real possibility of removing her. No sitting justice has ever been successfully removed. AOC can be defunded by her own party....
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