Christian Version of Lady Gaga?

LoneSheep · Jan 4, 2010

I used to think that the CCM industry imitates everything just to give a lighter alternative (kind of like Kids Bop )

Once I started looking around at some of the groups, though, I did see a lot of talent. Granted there are some similarities between CCM and secular music, but that happens anyway, even between secular groups. How many ways can you hit a drum to make it sound unique until you sound like someone else?

GQ Chris · Jan 4, 2010

CCM is from the devil if it isn't an old hymn it isn't Christian.

Okay, being facetious folks, lighten up.

LoneSheep · Jan 4, 2010

I just realized that while I was typing my last response I had Skillet playing in the background lol

Oddish · Jan 4, 2010

The only christian music I like is chanting.

ImperialPhantom · Jan 4, 2010

I really dislike most ccm, due to the lack of true art or originality within the genre. Christian metal is the worst offender. Granted, there are some very talented bands in the genre. But there are also some lame ripoff acts. Fact: you are not a Christian version of Pantera just because your lead singer does a bad impersonation of Phil Anselmo. The only good Christian metal bands, are the ones with their own sound. Tourniquet definitely has their own sound. Living Sacrifice, despite obvious influences of Slayer and Sepultura, had their own sound. Extol certainly had theirs.

Starcradle · Jan 4, 2010

ImperialPhantom said:
Fact: you are not a Christian version of Pantera just because your lead singer does a bad impersonation of Phil Anselmo.

white dove · Jan 4, 2010

Becksy said:
The only christian music I like is chanting.

I enjoy Latin chants, as well. Do you have any favorites?

crishmael · Jan 4, 2010

Becksy said:
The only christian music I like is chanting.

I've heard mostly Latin, but I also have a CD of Russian Orthodox ones.

Rocklee · Jan 5, 2010

Is Alicia Keys Christian?

I think she's way better. Lady Gaga looks like Pete Burns.

Apollo Celestio · Jan 5, 2010

With a name like Lady Gaga I thought she'd be older.. but she's only got one year on me.

I don't listen to enough Xian music to complain about it.. I'm not really much of a complainer anyway.

Blank123 · Jan 5, 2010

Rocklee said:
Is Alicia Keys Christian?

I think she's way better. Lady Gaga looks like Pete Burns.

I haven't heard anything about her being a Christian. I mean I think i remember her thanking God at some awards show, but everybody does that so that doesn't mean much.

but yes, she is much more talented than Lady Gaga.

Oddish · Jan 5, 2010

Alicia Keys is christian.

deliciousBass · Jan 5, 2010

Becksy said:
Alicia Keys is christian.

She's also dating a married man I won't judge though, even if I was a married man, and Alicia Keys came on to me, that would be hard to resist

Anyway, I love Lady Gaga and honestly, I think a "Christian" version of her is almost an oxymoron lol.

I can also appreciate her sense of style although I think she goes a little bit overboard at times. I dated a girl briefly who was obsessed with her and even wore a Lady Gaga outfit for Haloween complete with blonde wig and everything. It was pretty hot

Oddish · Jan 5, 2010

deliciousBass said:
She's also dating a married man

Really?!

I won't judge though, even if I was a married man, and Alicia Keys came on to me, that would be hard to resist

That won't be a problem if she is the one you end up marrying.

I can also appreciate her sense of style although I think she goes a little bit overboard at times.

Same here. I actually think that Lady Gaga is kind of adorable.

Tamara224 · Jan 5, 2010

I get the point of the article. It would be nice to be able to enjoy music without having your conscience pricked for the words that you're listening to, the lifestyle that is being promoted, etc. The beat, the instruments, the melody, harmony, chord progressions, etc, can be fun and stimulating but leave one feeling dirty because of the lyrics attached to them.

I used to LOVE Rammstein. But when I started learning German and could begin to understand what some of their songs were about - I got literally sick to my stomach. Although the music was fun, I found I absolutely could not enjoy a song about necrophilia, for example. Still... even as I write this, I am singing to myself: "Du. Du hast. Du hast mich" - and I really hate the message there, too - it's so sad ... but there's just something about Rammstein. And I do think it would be cool if there was a band that had a similar sound that sang words which glorified God.

Personally, I don't see a huge difference between Christian and secular as far as talent in songwriting and singing goes or as far as style of music goes. So much of what is popular (in both segments of society) these days is rubbish. So much of it all sounds exactly alike.

Also, some of our most beloved hymns started out as secular tunes. Amazing Grace, anyone? It's a well-settled tradition for Christians to "redeem" secular sounds.

Crosscheck · Jan 5, 2010

I remember when Rammstein first became big in the US. I often wondered if they would be nearly as popular as they were if people actually understood the songs. Though I gotta say, it really shouldn't be surprising that a German industrial metal band has some rather, shall we say, dark themes. They go after some very rough subjects in a manner that is very German.
I will say the video to Ich Will is one of the most brilliant analyses of the pyschology behind the early National Socialist movent I have ever seen. Even made more so by the fact it's a 4 minute music video.

Tamara224 · Jan 5, 2010

Crosscheck said:
I remember when Rammstein first became big in the US. I often wondered if they would be nearly as popular as they were if people actually understood the songs. Though I gotta say, it really shouldn't be surprising that a German industrial metal band has some rather, shall we say, dark themes. They go after some very rough subjects in a manner that is very German.
I will say the video to Ich Will is one of the most brilliant analyses of the pyschology behind the early National Socialist movent I have ever seen. Even made more so by the fact it's a 4 minute music video.

Totally agree. Germans are still kind of barbarians at heart - they haven't ever been "tamed". (If you all knew my last name, you'd know I'm totally allowed to say that).

On the line of not understanding the words.... I love listening to foreign music. One of my favorites is Indian music. And after my Rammstein experience, I've decided that I don't care to look up the meaning of any of the songs. I don't want to find out that the song I really love dancing to is praising Vishnu or something. It would ruin it for me. If I don't understand the words, then my conscience is clear. (I'm not one of those people that thinks words have inherent power beyond their meaning.) Of course, it's a catch 22, because I could be missing out on some great social commentary, or poetry, etc.

toastface_grillah · Jan 5, 2010

Tamara224 said:
I used to LOVE Rammstein. But when I started learning German and could begin to understand what some of their songs were about - I got literally sick to my stomach. Although the music was fun, I found I absolutely could not enjoy a song about necrophilia, for example. Still... even as I write this, I am singing to myself: "Du. Du hast. Du hast mich" - and I really hate the message there, too - it's so sad ... but there's just something about Rammstein. And I do think it would be cool if there was a band that had a similar sound that sang words which glorified God.

Also, some of our most beloved hymns started out as secular tunes. Amazing Grace, anyone? It's a well-settled tradition for Christians to "redeem" secular sounds.

What was Du Hast all about? When Rammstein first hit it big here in the states, I remember it was a catchy song, but it was strange how people just got into it without ever knowing what the lyrics meant.

Good point about Christians "redeeming" secular sounds. Every time I come across one of those Christian websites that advocates hymns, hymns and nothin' but hymns (and none of that satanic rock music), I always remember that the tune of "Amazing Grace" originally came from an English drinking song. We could use some updated drinking songs, but that's for another thread.

Tamara224 · Jan 5, 2010

toastface_grillah said:
What was Du Hast all about? When Rammstein first hit it big here in the states, I remember it was a catchy song, but it was strange how people just got into it without ever knowing what the lyrics meant.

It's a play on words. Du hast (you have) and du hasst (you hate). The lyrics are basically "you asked me if I will promise to love you forever and my answer is no." And the implication is that now 'she' hates him (du hasst mich - you hate me).

Crosscheck · Jan 5, 2010

There's a lot of word play involved. It's a bit of a mockery of German wedding vows with a bit of necrophilia thrown in for good measure. That part is a touch more clear if you watch the video. There's a lot of double meanings in the song as well. Du hast means "you have," but sounds exactly like Du hasst. Du hasst means "you hate," which carries the meaning, in the song, that you hate me, but want to marry me anyway. In addition to you want to marry me, but I don't want to marry you.

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